Those of us who use some Gnome applications such as Evolution are occasionally flummoxed by the never-ending story of Kwallet vs gnome-keyring. I suspect quite a few of us simply turn Kwallet off in order to simplify things. I did this a few releases back and everything worked, however with F21 I again have to input a password on every new session of Evolution, because gnome-keyring is not running as part of the login process. Can anyone enlighten me as to how to modify /etc/pam.d/sddm to get this working? There are a few recommendations out there but some are for KDM and don't always agree even on that. Looking ahead, this and similar problems have been cropped up for many a long year now, and someone always mentions that efforts are under way to resolve them (1), but nothing seems to happen - that Web page seems to be moribund and the link to the proposed spec is dead. What are the prospects of this incompatibility being settled? Seriously, aside from the UI, is there any fundamental difference between the goals of Kwallet and Gnome-keyring? Why does a DE even have to deal with managing keyrings or wallets anyway? Shouldn't this be a lower-level service and the DE just provide a UI for it? poc 1. http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/secret-storage-spec/ _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org