Re: Why Firefox is not a good choice of browser for a KDE/Plasma-based product

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On 03/26/2014 01:49 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Hi,

I am going to summarize what I wrote yesterday on IRC so everyone can read
it.

The discussion of what should be the default browser on the Plasma Product
has come up yesterday, and I strongly believe that Firefox is NOT the answer
(but either Konqueror+KWebKitPart or Rekonq is), for the following reasons:

Yet firefox is the answer for just one following reason:
It works.

I tried both konqueror and rekonq a long time ago and was not satisfied with them at all. Before writing this email, I tried them again. Rekonq improved, but still not good enough.

I use tabs in firefox as my todo-list (with extra addons to make sure I don't lose it). Right now I have 480+ tabs. Firefox is still working, it is fast and memory consumption is reasonable.

I tried rekonq and it crashed before I got to 50 tabs. (google search for something and open every link in a new tab). Just before it crashed it took almost half of the RAM firefox takes - with 10% of tabs (I don't know if some memory management would hit later, just describing what I've seen).

Firefox is faster - tried loading a few huge pages, rekong took 130%-200% time to load them.

Quick html5 support test (http://html5test.com/) shows html5 support in firefox is better.

Also, for user it is annoying to get "Your web browser is too old or not supported" messages too often (I got them 3 times during just a few minute test).

Anyway, if it is still possible to install Firefox from repository, I don't care. It's what I've been doing for last X years anyway. When I install Linux ( = Fedora KDE ), people are usually happy. But LibreOffice and Firefox is a must.

Seems to me this is the purity vs. usability question. It would be nice to have well integrated web browser - an application that is used most of the time ordinary user is working with a computer. Especially file dialog and kwallet integration would be nice. On the other hand, users will get much better experience with firefox. Similar as mediaplayers or codecs in fedora. We have them extra - located in rpmfusion. It's nice that our system is Pure(tm), but users usually do not care. They want to use their computer so they have to install all those Ugly and Unpure(tm) pieces anyway. It's just annoying to have to do it and some leave fedora with (wrong) impression "it does not work in fedora, but it works in ubuntu", Don't use this approach, learn from it.

Just my 2 cents.

Michal
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