Thanks for the list, some of that stuff should indeed be in the base KDE Plasma Desktop group (but not all!): Fl@sh wrote: > # KDE base (or minimal) > kdm Yes. > ## this packages for choice the dependence with less package size > sane-backends-libs No, that's not minimal at all. What drags this in as a dependency? And what's the larger dependency that gets dragged in otherwise? (I don't see what other dependency sane-backends- libs could replace, sounds like a packaging bug.) > phonon-backend-gstreamer Should be dragged in by dependencies already, but I guess it helps to list this explicitly for the folks who enable RPM Fusion during installation, who might otherwise end up with phonon-backend-vlc instead, which I don't think should be the default. > ## > kde-workspace Yes, of course. > konsole Maybe, not sure. Though currently kde-workspace drags it in anyway so that "right-click, Konsole" always works. > k3b No. That really needs to be optional. > apper > bluedevil Yes, those are needed for workspace-system integration. > plasma-scriptengine-python No. Purely optional and should be automatically installed through Plasma PackageKit integration when needed (if not, file a bug). > system-config-firewall > system-config-firewall-base No. Those are admin tools, not KDE-related at all. > kde-plasma-networkmanagement Yes, system integration, same as for Apper and BlueDevil. > kde-partitionmanager No, should be in a kde-admin-tools subgroup/option. > kwrite Maybe. Like Konsole, this one can be argued to be part of the workspace. Kevin Kofler _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org