Here's the problem as I understand it. I think my passwords are not being saved/restored by whatever agent is supposed to do this, and this is causing the same kind of symptoms with kmail and with NM. In both cases, it seems passwords are not available, and some times, kde doesn't seem to know how to ask for them (for NM, sometimes it pops up a dialog asking for my wireless pw, but sometimes it doesn't and just stairs at me dumbly). _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org