I recently had a system crash. (up to date Fedora 15) After restarting the machine I noticed that many desktop objects didn't work. I'd click on an object that it would eventually timeout, e.g., a tiger VNC session via ssh tunnel. I'd see the twirling circle with the object name in the task bar, then nothing. It took me a while to figure out that the problem was with kwallet. I mentioned this and ask for info on how to resolve on this list, but no one responded, except me to add information :-) I finally resolved it by uninstalling kedutils and kdeutils-minimal then reinstalling them. Still some issues. Like it always prompted to allow, even if I selected "Allow always" previously. At least it seemed to be resolved. A few minutes ago I did an up date and rebooted my system, now I am back where I was. No app that relies on kwallet will start. Can some one please suggest where I can start to look? Nothing shows up on google. Emmett _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org