On 07/21/2011 06:17 AM, John Pilkington wrote: I don't use f14 so for me its f15 only. Also, if I have a new kernel - i should restart - but this has nothing to do with plasma-desktop freezing up nor should it be a problem if I don't reboot for that matter. existing windows (terminal for example) work - but the desktops are all collapsed into 1 - and nothing on any panel responds to anything. _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org