> > > Need to check that the GNOME / KDE tools can set these things > > > system-wide (usually done via PolicyKit integration I think), but > > > in > > > principle, yes. Well, rather than remove them from the menus, we > > > could > > > make them NotShowIn (or whatever the keyword is) GNOME and KDE. > > > Desktop / KDE teams, wdyt? > > > > I would really rather they weren't installed at all, but that would > > do > > fine in the meanwhile. I wouldn't remove them completely *just yet* at least for the GNOME spin - as the s-c-* utilities offer little extra configurability not provided by the control panel applets yet (I checked for the 3 menu-duplicate items in particular), though generally they seem to intersect nicely(but not completely) both in features and scope. Additionally there are also some dependencies to them (notably anaconda and firstboot for s-c-date, s-c-users and s-c-keyboard...) When it comes to KDE spin, I see no point in keeping them as systemsettings currently provides for then just fine. Exception being again s-c-* needed for firstboot. > Well, I don't see why we shouldn't do both. Don't install 'em by > default > for GNOME and KDE spins, *and* make 'em NotShowIn desktops where > they're > not really needed, so that if people install them for use in Xfce or > LXDE or whatever, they don't show up in GNOME or KDE. Definitely. I will try out how the NotShowIn / OnlyShowIn works in practice in different desktop environments. _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org