Hi, Just updated to 4.5.2 and had a slight problem with plasma crashing at start up, it turns out kde-plasma-yawp was the problem: ## plasma-desktop: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/kde4/ion_accuweather.so: undefined symbol: _ZN12IonInterface14resetCompletedEPS_b <unknown program name>(24314)/: Communication problem with "plasma-desktop" , it probably crashed. ## Removing kde-plasma-yawp and plasma-desktop started fine, all is looking good.. kde-plasma-yawp.i686 0:0.3.4-1.fc13 qt-4.7.0-5.fc13.i686 Colin -- Fedora release 13 (Goddard) Registered Linux user number #342953 _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org