I'm a long-time computer user but i've failed to switch to KDE on my fresh fedora install. Is the help on this? I installed standard fedora 13 (gnome) and now want to use KDE. I followed the instructions in the http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KDE#Using_KDE page down to the 'Graphical Interface" section. Whether I use the switchdesktop command from the command line or use the system-switch-displaymanager kdm as root, I still get the gnome desktop (with a lot of entries in the menu, some with duplicates, like 'System monitor'). I do get a message saying I have to restart the X system. (Of course, I'm supposed to know what that means.) Deciding that restarting fedora will surely restart the X system, I do that, looking forward to choosing a KDE session during login. After all, you say: "During the default login process, you can use the "Session" menu to choose a KDE login instead of a GNOME login. You will be asked if you wish to make KDE your default desktop." There is no "Session" menu during the login process, I just go straight to the gnome desktop, menus cluttered with KDE stuff. Is there a way of doing this (switching between desktops) that works with fedora 13 (maybe a KDE person can do a fresh install with gnome and step through the instructions to see if they work). _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org