On 08/30/2010 05:43 PM, Ryan Rix wrote: > On Mon 30 August 2010 13:22:51 Manuel Escudero wrote: >> I have installed Fedora 13 Goddard x86_64 in my machine and I've updated to >> KDE 4.5, in order to run Skype I installed some 32 bit Qt libraries and >> when I installed the new KDE desktop I had to remove them because KDE 4.4 >> uses the "1:4.6" version of these libraries and KDE 4.5 the "1:4.7"... >> Now I have KDE 4.5 and everything is fine but I can't run lastest Skype >> because it needs the "1:4.6" Qt libraries, it doesn't work with the new >> ones, but if I remove the new ones and I replace them with >> the older ones, many apps seem to be "downgraded" or they just don't work >> anymore... >> Does this mean we're not having Skype in Fedora 14 KDE Spin as it's going >> to be based on KDE 4.5? >> >> Many users need skype (in my case I'm running it in a Windows 7 VM) But >> without it we can't offer reliable "Videocalls" as they're not implemented >> in IM Clients Linux have. > > So, a few things here... > > This isn't Ambassadors material, please keep it either on the users@ list or > (probably better) the kde@ list, where most KDE and Qt issues are handled. > This is most definitely not the place for it, "urgent" or not. > > Skype is indeed NOT going to be on the Fedora 14 KDE Spin as it is non-Free > software. From my PoV, it's harmful for Ambassadors to promote the use of this > software as it encourages lock in to proprietary applications and (probably > worse) proprietary protocols. Also, as you can see by your mail, using > proprietary applications can be more than a "philosophical" issue, given the > breakage you caused yourself by installing it. Imagine telling a new user how > to do this, and realizing they have just broken or messed up their > installation. Does it really put our distribution in a positive light? You > should be encouraging users to embrace Free solutions such as Ekiga softphone, > Pidgin and other SIP-based solutions which can be properly packaged for our > distribution. > > Lastly, Qt is supposed to be backwards compatible, meaning that applications > compiled in Qt 4.6 are supposed to work in Qt 4.7, etc... If you have > encountered a regression, file a bug at Nokia's Qt bug tracker[1], and let the > KDE Fedora list know of the issue. This is not the place to discuss such > issues. > > [1]: http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/ Not to promote Skype, but I have no problems running Skype with: qt-4.7.0-0.27.rc1.fc13.x86_64 qt-4.7.0-0.27.rc1.fc13.i686 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kde mailing list > kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde > New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org
