Thanks to both of you. This answered my questions. I knew how to get rpm to tell me roughly what I wished to know and I see that this method just uses yum to download (very handy, since to use rpm to download you have to know the url). _______________________________________________ kde mailing list kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde New to KDE4? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org