On 07/04/2010 01:53 AM, Eli Wapniarski wrote: > On Saturday 03 July 2010 23:43:40 Eike Hein wrote: >> On 07/03/2010 06:56 PM, Eli Wapniarski wrote: >>> Fine. K. then. I guess I am getting confused. But that means that I will >>> not always know what package goes with what package which means that I >>> will not be able to rely on the relative stability of whats coming out >>> of kde-redhat. Bummer really since I've been with the repo for a very >>> very long time. Bummer, because I won't have the resources to be able to >>> help, what little I can, because I'm never going to be sure of how tight >>> the integration between all the packages are going to be in the repo >>> that they're sitting in. Bummer since kde-redhat has become an extension >>> of the kde release cycle rather than the kde packaged for fedora release >>> cycle. I guess that once 4.5 goes gold I will have to rely only on >>> Fedora's stable packaging. I guess that's OK, because I know that the >>> final product when its finally going to be released is going to be >>> great. Really a bummer for me though, because I have enjoyed very much >>> watching how each full release has progressed over time. >> >> You're not making any sense there, to be honest. >> >> The situation with kdepim is that it won't be ready to be released >> with KDE 4.5.0, but only a bit later; it is going to be released >> with 4.5.1 or 4.5.2. Hence kdepim is currently at beta1, while >> the rest of the KDE SC is already at rc1. >> >> However, kde-unstable has already shipped both KDE SC 4.5 beta1 >> and beta2 (as well as betas of previous KDE SC releases, including >> the respective kdepim betas!), so kde-unstable is obviously OK to >> cary beta-level KDE releases for a long time. >> >> There's a beta of a kdepim release. It's going into kde-unstable. >> Just like the beta of kdepim 4.4. And 4.3. And 4.2. ... >> >> There's nothing unusual about this, except that the production >> release of kdepim 4.5 is delayed a bit beyond the release of the >> rest of the SC. >> >>> Eli > > The fuss is.... The developers are saying that kdepim 4.5 is not ready for > prime time and will not be released with kde 4.5. In unstable we have the kde > 4.5 packages. We are all testing kde 4.5 not 4.5.1. It is not unforseable that > me you or someone else, on purpose or by accident or for whatever reason > installs kdepim 4.5 on a production desktop. Could be they are not part of the > mailing list. Or missed the statements that kdepim is not going to be released > with 4.5. Now.... lets assume that there are even minor changes to the way > kdepim talks to akonadi. The database changes. Queries change. Imap databases > get corrupted. Addressbook data gets modified. Now.... rollback. Exactly how > does one propse that gets done. > > Yes there is the risk that can happen with schedualed for release versions. > Its happened already. Hasn't it? People use kde-unstable on a production desktop? :-) > > Eli > > Eli >