Hi, I cannot get amarok to start since upgrading to 4.4.80 (not with 4.4.85 either). See buttom part of email for error messages. It does not seem to be related to the dbus updates as I tried to downgrade. I have tried switching Phonon backends, without success. Has anybody else seen this? perhaps found a workaround? This is f13.x68_64 $ amarok --debug QStringList Solid::Backends::KUPnP::KUPnPManager::findDeviceByDeviceInterface(Solid::DeviceInterface::Type) error: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown" QStringList Solid::Backends::KUPnP::KUPnPManager::findDeviceByDeviceInterface(Solid::DeviceInterface::Type) error: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown" QStringList Solid::Backends::KUPnP::KUPnPManager::findDeviceByDeviceInterface(Solid::DeviceInterface::Type) error: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown" virtual QStringList Solid::Backends::KUPnP::KUPnPManager::allDevices() error: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown" QStringList Solid::Backends::KUPnP::KUPnPManager::findDeviceByDeviceInterface(Solid::DeviceInterface::Type) error: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown" QStringList Solid::Backends::KUPnP::KUPnPManager::findDeviceByDeviceInterface(Solid::DeviceInterface::Type) error: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown" QStringList Solid::Backends::KUPnP::KUPnPManager::findDeviceByDeviceInterface(Solid::DeviceInterface::Type) error: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown" virtual QStringList Solid::Backends::KUPnP::KUPnPManager::allDevices() error: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown" QStringList Solid::Backends::KUPnP::KUPnPManager::findDeviceByDeviceInterface(Solid::DeviceInterface::Type) error: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown" QStringList Solid::Backends::KUPnP::KUPnPManager::findDeviceByDeviceInterface(Solid::DeviceInterface::Type) error: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown" QStringList Solid::Backends::KUPnP::KUPnPManager::findDeviceByDeviceInterface(Solid::DeviceInterface::Type) error: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown" virtual QStringList Solid::Backends::KUPnP::KUPnPManager::allDevices() error: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown" Calling appendChild() on a null node does nothing. QGraphicsLinearLayout::removeAt: invalid index 1 <unknown program name>(14310)/: Communication problem with "amarok" , it probably crashed. Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." " TIA, Kim