some initial experimental vlc/phonon-backend-vlc (snapshot) packages are available in f12/f13 unstable repos. Enjoy. I've also got srpm copies of these at http://rdieter.fedorapeople.org/rpms/vlc/ for you hackers out there. Next task is to work on splitting vlc into fedora'able and patent-encumbered/rpmfusion parts. I'll be trying to catch kwizart over the weekend to try to coordinate efforts and get things into official repos asap. -- Rex