On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Martin Kho <lists.kho at gmail.com> wrote: >> 2010/3/8 Anne Wilson <cannewilson at googlemail.com>: >> > On Monday 08 March 2010 13:14:19 Martin Kho wrote: >> >> > On Monday 08 March 2010 11:21:21 Martin Kho wrote: >> >> > > > On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Petrus de Calguarium >> >> > > > >> >> > > > <kwhiskerz at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > > > > If I am not mistaken,, you have either >> >> > > > > knetworkmanager or NetworkManager-gnome >> >> > > > > installed, not both. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > You can have both installed without a problem. If you have both >> >> > > > you get a warning (get asked?) from knetworkmanager that another >> >> > > > applet is running and if you want to use it or not in the future. >> >> > > > So, one is always working. >> >> > > >> >> > > Hi, >> >> > > >> >> > > Aren't both knetworkmanager and NetworkManager-gnome more or less >> >> > > front-ends to NetworkManager? So if the network doesn't work, it has >> >> > > to be NetworkManager that didn't detect the network-card, or did >> >> > > set up the interface wrongly. Are there any error messages in >> >> > > /var/log/messages? >> >> > >> >> > Messages appeared to be saying that the cabled connection was OK, but >> >> > the wireless connection was disabled by 'killswitch'. ?Since the >> >> > hardware switch is in a position where it can get knocked off, I >> >> > played around with it until Messages accepted that it is on. >> >> > ?However, when I got the authentication dialog there is no entry >> >> > possibility for WPA! ?This is definitely a regression. ?I've had WPA >> >> > with knetworkmanager before, I'm sure. >> >> > >> >> > Oddly enough, ifconfig says it has an ipv6 address, but no ipv4 >> >> > address. Meanwhile, the icon on the systray still tells me that the >> >> > network is disabled. >> >> >> >> Hi Anne, >> >> >> >> Just a silly question. You don't - still - have the kde-plasma version >> >> of knetworkmanager installed? >> > >> > Seems that I do. ?I installed it and never got around to sorting it out. >> > ?I think that maybe the tray icon I'm complaining about is from that. >> > ?OK - so removed the plasma object - the icon remains. ?I'll try a >> > reboot in a moment to see whether the network activates properly. >> > ?Funny, though, in the past I've always been able to see the cabled >> > connection even if the wireless one wasn't available. >> >> The networkmanagemnt plasmoid does right now nothing except popup a >> message that it's deprecated in favor of the systray applet. Doesn't >> matter if it's installed or not. I guess the worst thing that could >> happen is that it makes plasma-desktop crash. Well, that would >> actually be bad ;) > > Hi, > > I'm not sure if you're right here if I read Will Stephenson's post under point > b), see [1] Hi, well, i have no idea about Kubuntu ;) But i speak out of experience. I had the plasmoid. I have both frontends installed, the gnome and the kde one (using the gnome one) and cnetworkmanager. Yes, you can run only one at the same time. But the plasmoid i had did nothing except that popup (of course after it got deprecated for now). Could of course be that my brain serves bad here and i had to de-install it. Will try it later with some time again. -- LG Thomas Dubium sapientiae initium