2010/2/17 Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan at gmail.com>: > On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 15:49 +0100, Thomas Janssen wrote: >> > 2) not restricting yourself to kde* (and its dependencies) increases >> the >> > risk of a flaky system because you're updating a bunch of stuff you >> > don't care about. It can then be hard to back out to *not* using >> > updates-testing for every future update. >> >> Well. Not true. Whatever is in updates-testing, you should care of. >> Most updates are bugfixes and come in 99.99% of the cases into updates >> anyways. > > I mean that unless I'm prepared to do testing and reporting, I don't > care about them because they'll eventually appear in updates. It's about the risk of a "flaky" system you said. I use updates-testing and kde-redhat since a long time. And i had some small problems with it. Everything easily fixable trough a downgrade in the worst case. And if you face a problem that hit not every user but the package is already in stable you have to be prepared to report the problem anyways. >> And you can easily back out by disabling the updates-testing repo. > > "Backing out" means reversing an earlier advance, e.g. by using "yum > downgrade". Disabling updates-testing won't do that. All it does is > tread water until the standard repo catches up. Nothing wrong with that, > but it's not "backing out". Ok, so backing out means to revert the update trough a yum downgrade. Where's the problem? "Oh, i'm not convinced with the packages, so i disable updates-testing and run yum downgrade". In the worst case grab the packages from a mirror and run: rpm -Uhv --oldpackage >> Nothing brakes, no problem with future updates. We're not speaking of >> enabling rawhide for some updates. That will give you headaches at >> some point. > > "breaks", not "brakes", but fair enough. Yeah, my bad. But glad you spotted my typo. Though the truth. -- LG Thomas Dubium sapientiae initium