Gilboa Davara wrote: > I had a lot of issues with kpackagekit hanging / reporting a successful > installation while back-end is stilling downloading, etc. > How much love is getting from upstream? The current brokenness is getting sorted out, e.g. there are fixes for the kded4 crashes. > I found the gnome-networkmanager worked better for me. Somehow the > interface worked better. (HID wise.) > However, I've yet to install F12 on a laptop, so I can't really comment > on the latest knetworkmanager front-end. If what you used was the plasmoid then, well, the current KNM is completely different. It also fixes the missing features from older KNM snapshots. I really don't see why we'd continue shipping NM-gnome in a KDE spin. KNM just works these days. (I'm using it in F12 with no issues.) > Given the lack of love kbluetooth is getting from upstream, I'd ship > gnome-bluetooth instead. We don't have room on the live CD for that. IMHO it's either kbluetooth or no Bluetooth support at all. Kevin Kofler