On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 08:00 +0200, Eli Wapniarski wrote: > Just my 2cents. > > If from the command prompt you run setup then X configuration select > the Nouveau driver. Go to the panel that should allow you to configure > dual head go through the trouble of configuring it and click on OK. > Nothing happens. Not even a crash. Nada, nothing. I experienced that when I did my upgrade too. > And this is a bug I absolutely refuse to report. This is a basic QA > issue never seeemed to get done cause the problem has been around > since at least Fedora 11. While the configuration tool that comes with > the proprietary driver just works. Agreed. > Nouveau doesn't support TV out. As a matter of fact I've tried an > older ati card with tv out and I couldn't get tv out in an a tv only > setup. Works fine with Nvidia geforce 2. Heck it even works with Vesa > drivers. Nouveau not there yet. Maybe somebody could relate their > experience with the intel chip set. How about this little bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528188 All the developers do is keep asking for data. Its been given to them several times. Nothing has been resolved. Thus I cannot use nouveau. Or this one that they closed outright: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529128 > And as frustrating and slow as the support has been from NVidia from time to time. They do indeed support Linux and when it works it works. > > There is a world of difference between reality and ideology; between > the actual and the potential. When the Nouveau drivers are ready I > will be using them (I genuinely believe opensource is the superior > development model.) Until then I need to use my computer for work and > play. I need to get things done. If its a choice between 3/4 there but > I can't do what I need to or want it to and 90% there and I can... > guess what choice I'm going to make. Well said, Eli. Kevin, I really wish you would change your attitude towards the proprietary drivers. You repeatedly claimed that this bug was due to a problem in the proprietary nvidia driver: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525767 However, that problem disappeared in F12 with no change in the driver version. Hmmm....