Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> >> I am running Fedora-12 with KDE. >> >> Is it possible to configure NM (NetworkManager) >> >> so that it starts before I login, >> >> and does not require me to enter a password? >> >> >> >> The instructions I have seen for this all seem to assume >> >> that one is using Gnome rather than KDE. >> > >> > system-config-network. >> >> What about it? >> I have the checkbox "Activate device when computer starts" ticked, >> but this appears to have no effect. > > Do you also have "controlled by NetworkManager" ticked? Try "allow all > users to activate/deactivate". I have all three of these and it works > fine. > > And make sure of course that you're setting this stuff for the correct > device, just in case. Thanks very much for the response. I did in fact have the correct entries under system-config-network . I found in the end (by studying /var/log/messages) that the problem was an error in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 , where Fedora had at some point written "MODE=Master", which according to the log-file is invalid ["ifcfg-rh: error: Invalid mode 'master' (not 'Ad-Hoc' or 'Managed')"]. After changing this to "MODE=Managed", all is well; WiFi now starts before login. I find it slightly odd that the effect of this error is that one has to enter a password; I would have thought it would be an error whether a password was given or not. I also find the NetworkManager entries in /var/log/messages excessively verbose; they seem to take up about half of this file, which suggests to me that NM is excessively complicated. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland