Kevin Kofler venit, vidit, dixit 10.09.2009 11:05: > Ben Boeckel wrote: >> k-p-nm is now a viewer for the kded service, > > True, but the plasmoid is most likely not what he's using, the monolithic > systray applet is. Unlike the plasmoid, which has to be added to the panel > by hand, the systray applet autostarts. > >> hence the passive mode. > > No, the passive mode is because the GNOME nm-applet is running too. > >> This is so that the connection survives a plasma crash. >> There will be a systray icon for it when it is running. > > No, the systray icon is the monolithic version. The kded4 service and the > plasmoid work together and are separate from the monolithic version (and > should not be run at the same time as it). They are not ready for production > use. > >> Using nm-applet will disable the kded service and the >> plasmoid/systray will act as a viewer for it. > > Right. Confusion mounts (sorry). I used to have nm-applet on the systray (tried the plasmoid a few times and gave up). After the 4.3.1 update, there's the kdeish version, and I see knetworkmanger running. Trying to start nm-applet gives ** (nm-applet:7680): WARNING **: <WARN> request_name(): Could not acquire the NetworkManagerUserSettings service as it is already taken. Return: 3 "pkill knetworkmanager && nm-applet" replaces the kdeish systray applet with good old nm-applet. If I now start knetworkmanager again it appears in addition to the nm-applet systray icon. So, I guess knetworkmanager's mode depends on what it sees when being started. The plasmoid more or less says "Don't use me.", by the way. Michael
