Only thing I think that is lacking in the KDE4 world is WPA2 for the wifi app, other than that I do agree that 4.3 is the first release to be able to sit back and go "yeah, that's kde3.5.10's successor" Many kudos to Rex and Kevin as well as all others involved! -Adam -- http://maxamillion.googlepages.com --------------------------------------------------------- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments