On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 17:18 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Friday 07 August 2009 15:43:33 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 13:30 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > On Thursday 06 August 2009 22:17:35 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > > Since 4.3 seems to carry on the tradition of not > > > > documenting anything useful*, can anyone enlighten me? > > > > > > Thank you. So we'll all stop working on it until you join in and help > > > us. > > > > No need to overreact. I'll admit to a certain snittiness in my remarks, > > but it's not like this is the first time anyone has ever said anything > > about KDE documentation. I've frequently complained about it in the past > > and was disappointed to find that 4.3 still has holes. In fact it even > > has missing documentation files (click on the Help button in a plasma > > applet and get "The file or folder help:/plasma-desktop/index.html does > > not exist".) This was also the case with earlier versions of KDE and I > > also commented on it at the time. > > > > The whole point I'm trying to make is that most of the easy stuff is > > documented, but a lot of the harder stuff isn't. Clearly if I was in a > > position to write docs for the hard stuff I wouldn't need to ask the > > question in my post. > > > No, the whole point is that documentation has to be written. Every study > shows that developers are not the best people to write it, anyway. They don't > see things from the same perspective as the user, and then of course many > (most?) of them don't speak English as a first language. > > The best way undoubtedly is for those that care to start helping write > documentation - and UserBase makes that easy to do (any help needed in > starting new sections etc., please ask me). If you do that, developers will > be so grateful that they'll fall over themselves to answer your questions so > that you can expand the help. It's unfortunate that this has veered off into a discussion of the docs. If you glance at my original post, that point I was trying to make was that the configuration dialogue is poorly designed. If it were well-designed, the docs would be much less important. However I take your point about offering to help. You did that once before and I never acted on it. If you point me in the right direction I'll see what I can do. [...] > > That also works with Dolphin and is a valid alternative. However it > > doesn't really answer the question. More to the point, a user who sees > > the notification pop-up and clicks on the icon will still have to click > > twice more to get to the file browser, which I conjecture to be by far > > the most common case. That's just bad design. > > > How do you know that's the common case? It is for you, and it is for me, but > for others an image viewer or media player may be their most common need. Perhaps, but we'll never know. That's why configurability is important. > I'm > totally against forcing anyone down any path. Since we're talking about configurability, I obviously agree with you. > For heaven's sake, I can live > with a couple of clicks. Is it really that important? Cosmically speaking, of course not. When you use the pendrive several times a day, every time it happens it's an irritation, like squeaky chalk on a blackboard. Since I use KDE exclusively, I want it to work the way I think it *should* work, just for my own sake. BTW http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Device +Manager?content=106051 shows an interesting alternative to the device notifier, but it doesn't seem to be available for Fedora (the Install New Widgets dialogue can't find it.) poc
