I'm not usually one to complain, but 100% reproducible crashes with (as of yet) no useful KCrashes is kind of bad. I wanted to play around with Bonjour. I added an account in Kopete, no problem. I remoted to another machine and installed and setup Pidgin for the same purpose. As soon as Pidgin comes online, Kopete crashes. I reload Kopete, and try to bring the bonjor account online. Kopete crashes immediately again. This suggests to me that Bonjor simply wasn't tested on at least this version of Kopete, kdepim-4.2.4-1.fc10.i386 BTW, is there a way to keep the debuginfo files up to date with yum? I always seem to have to do a debuginfo-install Also, are KCrash reports ever useful without the debug packages installed? I eventually install Pidgin to continue my experiment. -- Fedora 10 (www.pembo13.com)