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On Tuesday 30 June 2009 23:25:44 Rex Dieter wrote:
> On 06/30/2009 03:04 PM, Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> > On Tuesday 30 June 2009 20:16:42 Eli Wapniarski wrote:
> >>> I disagree. It's important for components to work together.
> >>
> >> Yes it is. And if you want things to work together then write some kind of middle example of pulseaudio crippling
> 

Last things first. Not attempting to troll or for people to start attacking each other really. If that's how this is being interpreted then I apologize. Just expressing frustration with software.

> My first and last comment on this thread, and then I'd like to ask folks 
> to just chill a bit.
> 
> FACT:  There are a small (gladly) subset of systems, drivers, apps that, 
> unfortunately, for one reason or another (I'm not assigning blame), that 
> do not interoperate well with pulseaudio.  Note, I am not assigning 
> blame, and neither should you.
>
> Want to read more?
> 
> My experience tells me that most of the "problems" are due to driver 
> bugs or application bugs, not PA.  Does removing PA workaround the 
> problems? Sometimes, but that's not fixing the inherent issues.

Forgive me but I gotta ask... Are the drivers for the sound card in pulseaudio or the kernel or somewhere else?
 
> Now, if folks have problems and are genuinely interested in 
> *constructively* finding solutions, I'm all for that. TOTALLY.  But 
> drawing broad (and trollish) conclusions based on anecdotal evidence, 
> please well, I don't know what.  I'm at a loss.  Just makes me sad.  I 
> know we all can do better than that.

I've already filed a bug report with the wine packagers. What else is there to do?

Eli

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