On Tuesday 30 June 2009 23:25:44 Rex Dieter wrote: > On 06/30/2009 03:04 PM, Eli Wapniarski wrote: > > On Tuesday 30 June 2009 20:16:42 Eli Wapniarski wrote: > >>> I disagree. It's important for components to work together. > >> > >> Yes it is. And if you want things to work together then write some kind of middle example of pulseaudio crippling > Last things first. Not attempting to troll or for people to start attacking each other really. If that's how this is being interpreted then I apologize. Just expressing frustration with software. > My first and last comment on this thread, and then I'd like to ask folks > to just chill a bit. > > FACT: There are a small (gladly) subset of systems, drivers, apps that, > unfortunately, for one reason or another (I'm not assigning blame), that > do not interoperate well with pulseaudio. Note, I am not assigning > blame, and neither should you. > > Want to read more? > > My experience tells me that most of the "problems" are due to driver > bugs or application bugs, not PA. Does removing PA workaround the > problems? Sometimes, but that's not fixing the inherent issues. Forgive me but I gotta ask... Are the drivers for the sound card in pulseaudio or the kernel or somewhere else? > Now, if folks have problems and are genuinely interested in > *constructively* finding solutions, I'm all for that. TOTALLY. But > drawing broad (and trollish) conclusions based on anecdotal evidence, > please well, I don't know what. I'm at a loss. Just makes me sad. I > know we all can do better than that. I've already filed a bug report with the wine packagers. What else is there to do? Eli -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.