> I'd start with removing/renaming/backing-up: > > ~/.kde/share/config/kwin* > ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* > ~/.kde/share/apps/ksmserver > ~/.kde/share/config/ksmserverrc > > -- Rex Well I did as you suggest and I can reboot or logout or shutdown once but as soon as I log in again and try any of the above again it fails. If I <ctr alt f2> and stop X it will go back to the login screen (kdm) I an I can either reboot shutdown or login from there. Seems like something is consistently screwing with the above mentioned files. Do you think backing up the entire .kde directory and logging out and in again might solve the problem as Anne says? Thanks for the help so far. Peter Reed