Rex Dieter wrote: > for those of you with gnome-keyring problems, > does using gdm make any difference? I just uninstalled it, removed the old, deprecated /etc/sysconfig/desktop and solved the KDE login problem yesterday (~/.dmrc). I'm sticking with KDM. I guess I'll have to remember my router passphrase for a while and change it often, or do what Gilboa suggested, about manually killing gnome- keyringmanager (and nm-applet) and then restarting nm-applet. It is tedious, but it works.