On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Eli Wapniarski <eli at orbsky.homelinux.org> wrote: > On Wednesday 28 January 2009 13:55:45 Anne Wilson wrote: >> On Tuesday 27 January 2009 20:05:16 Anne Wilson wrote: >> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> > From: Rex Dieter <rdieter at math.unl.edu> >> > Date: 2009/1/27 >> > Subject: Re: what is stable? >> > To: KDE on Fedora discussion <fedora-kde at lists.fedoraproject.org> >> > >> > Eli Wapniarski wrote: >> > > If you mean that KDE 4.3 and KDE 4.4 final will not be stable >> > >> > I think what *I* can boil-down from this conversation is varying >> > degrees, definitions, interpretations of what it means to be: >> > * usable >> > * stable >> > * releasable >> > >> > I'd welcome a conversation to be able to be able to (as much as >> > possible) clearly define what we (fedora) consider these to be, so that >> > when any such future confusion arises, we can point to the bright neon >> > sign (wiki page?) outlining such. >> >> Someone has to kick off :-) >> >> In my eyes, an application is stable if it doesn't crash or do other >> unexpected things. >> >> A distribution is stable if it has only packages that have been tried and >> tested over a very long period, which inevitably means that it will not >> have the latest and greatest, and intends making only the minimum of >> changes to stay secure. >> > > I agree with Anne up to a point. Most of us are using Fedora because rapidity > of development and the advancement of feature sets. But I do think that Fedora > stable releases should make a rule that core backends always be marked as > stable by the developers before they are released as stable in Fedora. Not > Beta, Alpha, or RC. If things go bad, then where is a reasonable place to > begin triage. It might slow things down. But I suspect only a little. The > trick here of course is identifying core backends, not just peoples favorite > application. > > Eli Proposition for the KDE sig. Only do one or two full KDE releases to updates per Fedora release. But keep a rapid pace in updates testing as before. Those of us who want the fluidity will simply move to updates-testing -- Fedora 9 : sulphur is good for the skin ( www.pembo13.com )