I'm running the latest KDE from kde-testing: kdebase-4.1.96-1.fc10.x86_64, etc I notice that every time I restart my desktop nm-applet and guidance-power-manager restart. I'm also running the kdenetwork applet and the battery manager plasmoid, and don't think I need these gnome applets, but I can't figure out how to get rid of them. I can quit them, but they always restart. There are no entries in ~/.kde/Autostart, nor are there any listings in the "Autostart" portion of systemsettings. Session management seems to be working in general, in that normal applications are restarted if and only if they were running when I logged out last. But these two applets seem impossible to kill. Am I right in thinking that I don't need them, and if so, how do I keep them from starting (short of removing them from my system altogether?). Jeff Anderson