My questions were not to the point (was Re: 3 Questions)

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On Tuesday 20 January 2009 15:47:49 Martin Kho wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Anne Wilson <cannewilson at googlemail.com> 
wrote:
> > On Tuesday 20 January 2009 00:38:35 Martin Kho wrote:
> >> My question had nothing to do with the placement of Kickoff on the
> >> panel, but with the Kickoff menu itself. Go to the Applications tab and
> >> click any item with sub-items. Then you see to the left the
> >> 'blue-back-bar-button'. Drop your mouse to the left edge and you can't
> >> press the 'back-button'. In the stable version of KDE - 4.3.1 - there
> >> was no space between the left edge and the Kickoff menu. My 'problem'
> >> has to do with the latest kde testing - 4.1.96 - version.
> >
> > I have 4.1.96-1.fc10.i386.  Clicking anywhere on the blue panel takes me
> > back as expected - even taking it as low as I can.  There is a tiny
> > (2px-wide?) white border between the blue and the black icon-backgrounds.
> >  However, I couldn't persuade my mouse pointer to click there at all, as
> > it always tried to activate the Favourites tab.  Nor do I have anything
> > that I recognise as "space between the left edge and the Kickoff menu". 
> > Sorry, I can't reproduce your problem at all. Perhaps a screenshot of the
> > menu would help, so that we can see this space?
> >
> > Anne
>
> I have version: 4.1.96-1.fc10.x86_64. In the screenshot below you can
> see the space between the blue 'back-buttonbar' and the left *screen*
> edge (see red arrow). May be it wasn't clear I meant the left screen
> edge. 

Yes, it was clear enough, but it took a screenshot before I really understood 
what you meant.  Looking at mine, it seems to be a rather strong frame to the 
widget, nothing more, so what we really need is the ability to have the widget 
with or without a frame, as you can with the picture-frame.

> Btw. Anne, did you see the bugreport at kde:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158675. Especially Carsten Wolff's
> comment.
>
I use a full-width panel, so I've never seen the problem described there.

It's odd how some things are so important to working practices for some users, 
yet irrelevant to others.  I hadn't even noticed the frame until you pointed 
it out to me.  I thought I was the world's worst mouse-user, yet it had never 
caused me a problem :-)  Still, I'd guess that asking for the frame to be 
optional might be your best bet.

Anne
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