Linuxguy123 wrote: > On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 08:37 -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: >> Linuxguy123 wrote: >> > On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 11:15 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote: >> >> On Friday 16 January 2009 09:58:16 Kevin Kofler wrote: >> >>> Eelko Berkenpies wrote: >> >>>> And the same for ATI (I have a 9200SE as an alternative at >> >>>> work), they haven't been updating their legacy drivers since 2006. >> >>> Just use the Free (as in speech) drivers for that one, they work >> >>> perfectly with my 9200SE. >> >>> >> >> And if you still have problems, try the fix at >> >> http://userbase.kde.org/GPU- >> >> Performance#Desktop_Effects_causes_random_freezes >> >> >> >> A number of people have found that it fixes their problems. >> > >> > More hacking around. Linux is supposed to be a mainstream, user ready >> > product. How do we justify asking people to know things about their >> > video cards to get it to work properly. >> > >> > I still say that even if the nVidia cards had issues the KDE community >> > could have developed an app to help people tune their cards. Its 2009 >> > people. Users shouldn't have to go hand editing xorg.conf files ! >> >> Agreed. No one is arguing that point. >> >> The point of contention is that most folks here assert >> fedora/kde isn't the place for this to happen. >> *NVIDIA* is where things should "just work", it's their driver, they >> should fix it. >> >> Seriously, are you (or anyone else in the same boat) spending even half >> as much energy engaging NVIDIA to fix this? (I'd bet $$ answer is no). >> >> If not, why not? That's what I don't understand. > > a) Because other people have. Then go help them. They aren't getting getting nearer to a solution from what I can see. > b) nVidia is only half the problem. Its really too bad that their > drivers don't work, but that is the environment that KDE is working > with. KDE should be doing *something* for people this doesn't work for. > You can't write a piece of software that depends on a certain feature > and leave people out in the cold if it doesn't work for them. DE has always been "tacked on" (a leaf in runtime dependencies). Nothing depends on it working. Isn't this what compiz does? Writes software that requires other-than-bare-minimum hardware. Should those with integrated graphics go and complain that its requirements are too high? I think they'd decline to fix your problem as that requires buying a video card for you. Why is KDE different here? > The code in question should have 2 modes, one for cards that work and > one for those that don't OR SOMETHING. DE on/off switch seems reasonable here. Oh, hey, there it is (systemsettings -> desktop). > I've been running F10 since it was released and I've NEVER had a working > folderview. Do you know how frustrating that is ? Stop using the blob, things get better. Strange how that never occurred as an option... --Ben
