With issues like you're having, I'd create a new user with a clean user $HOME and see if the problems persist. (feel free to ignore me if you have done that...) Tim I'm not into that right now. It's a lot of work for what is unlikely to be the issue. I have thought of it and might resort to it sometime down the road. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/kde/attachments/20090111/1f8066f3/attachment.html