Re: [RFC] Optionally using git repositories instead of the lookaside cache

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On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 00:48, Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 4:27 PM Jeremy Cline <jeremy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > The Fedora kernel is moving to maintaining the package in a source
> > (sometimes people refer to it as an "exploded") tree. Basically just a
> > fork of upstream. This makes a lot of packager tasks easier, but has
> > introduced a minor issue with respect to the lookaside cache.
> >
> > Right now, it's configured to create a tarball from the git tree and
> > upload it to the lookaside cache for each build. We build the rawhide
> > kernel every weekday (give or take) and the xz compressed source
> > tarball is ~110MB. This works out to about 28GB per year for Rawhide
> > alone (if this is a drop in the bucket and no one cares please let me
> > know and we'll just do this). The old approach uploaded a release
> > tarball and then incremental tarballs on top of that.
> >
> > If, however, Fedora allowed packagers to optionally generate tarballs
> > from a git repository we could just push the linux git repository. The
> > entire repository with history going back 15 years is under 4GB total,
> > which is pretty good when compared to ~419GB which is the space
> > required for the equivalent time using the lookaside cache.
> >
> > What would need to change:
> >
> > * Fedora offers a git repository to push source trees to.
> >
> > * A new file in the dist-git repository could be added if the packager
> >   wishes called "source-repos". In it, it contains a git url and commit
> >   identifier. For example, an entry might look like:
> >     "
> > https://src.fedoraproject.org/sources/kernel.git v5.6"
> >   where v5.6 is a tag in the repository. We can restrict it so the git
> >   repository must be hosted by Fedora so we keep all the sources
> >   forever.
> >
> > * fedpkg and fedpkg-minimal would need to be updated to pull the
> >   source tree if the "source-repos" file is found and run
> >   "git archive". Fortunately this work is actually already done since
> >   Red Hat's version of fedpkg already supports this.
> >
> > I'm happy do to all the work for fedpkg/fedpkg-minimal to make this
> > possible because the other option is to add a bunch of hacks to the
> > kernel tooling to spit out a bunch of incremental tarballs to reduce
> > what we have to upload.
> >
> > I assume this is something that will need to go through the packaging
> > SIG, but from an infra side of things are there any thoughts/concerns?
> >
>
> At least with this _specific_ proposal, I don't see too many issues.
> Adding a "sources" namespace to Pagure and setting up a workflow for
> that isn't a horrible idea.
>
> I still feel like my general concerns in original proposal from two
> years ago[1] haven't been sufficiently addressed. But, given that you
> seem to have a specific idea in mind here, my questions about this for
> the kernel (and others that would opt into this workflow):
>
> * Are you okay with imposing the same restrictions we have on rpms/*,
> modules/*, flatpaks/*, and containers/* for sources/*? That is, no
> rewriting history, no branch deletion, no tag deletion, etc.
> * Are you okay with blocking the usage of submodules, Git LFS,
> Git-Annex, or any other mechanism that allows bypassing our
> protections or cannot be replicated from an upstream repo locally?

I would just like to note that this point is not precise. Usage of git
submodules (and other technologies) is completely alright if they
still point to src.fp.o. Is there a source for the point so that I can
open a PR to fix it?

Thank you

>
>
>
> [1]: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7498
>
>
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