Re: State/future of the packages app

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On 9/12/19 4:16 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On 9/12/19 1:12 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> On Thu, 2019-09-12 at 02:32 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 2:28 AM Clement Verna <cverna@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 at 15:06, Ankur Sinha <sanjay.ankur@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I was looking for information on the future of the packages
>>>>> application[1]. I didn't see it mentioned in the commblog post[2].
>>>>
>>>> Currently the application is in a kind of maintenance mode (in reality I don't have much time to look at tickets). This application is really valuable and used a lot, but the big problem is the technology stack it is built on TurboGears2 and making an heavy use of Moksha (https://moksha.readthedocs.io/en/latest/), while TG2 is still active upstream, this is not the case with Moksha and some of the TG2 dependencies the application has. The effort to move away from these 2 framework is quite high and I don't think we currently have the cycles for it.
>>>>
>>>> My personal opinion is that we should really try to consolidate on src.fp.o and instead of investing time in porting packages to more recent technologies we should put that effort in adding the missing features to src.fp.o.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If we lose the packages app, we'll lose the only way to search for
>>> binary packages. src.fp.o only shows source package names, and most
>>> people aren't going to know what those are.
>>
>> FWIW, a feature of the packages app I use *all the time* is
>> bugz.fedoraproject.org/<packagename> . I can do everything I use that
>> for in other ways, sure, but it's a fantastically helpful shortcut for
>> finding and reporting bugs in <packagename>.
>>
> mee too. ;(
> 
> I also used 'pkgwat releases packagename' a lot. (pkgwat was the
> packages command line app, but it's python2 only, so it went away I
> fear. That was a nice easy way to see what release of a thing was in
> each of the supported branches...
> 

Wow. I never even knew about `pkgwat`. I have an alias in my shell that
will pop open the packages app for any rpm name:

```
fpkgpage ()
{ 
    xdg-open https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/${1}
}
```

So I use `fpkgpage dnf` or whatever anytime I need to get to a good launch point
to find all the information about a package. I really like the packages app and will
be really sad to see it go. I use it all the time. 

I'm just another one of those freeloaders that can't commit to maintaining it though.

Dusty
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