On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 12:41 PM Stephen John Smoogen <smooge@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 at 06:55, Mikolaj Izdebski <mizdebsk@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 10:43 AM Stephen John Smoogen <smooge@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 at 04:52, Mikolaj Izdebski <mizdebsk@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > I would like to propose increasing NUM_CONCURRENT_BUILDS for MBS to > > > > value 100 after beta freeze is over. > > > > > > > > The above MBS setting controls how many parallel component builds MBS > > > > can run at the same time. Current value is only 20. That value was > > > > defined 3 years ago, in March 2017 when there were much fewer modules > > > > in Fedora. Our Koji has capacity to run many more builds. Currently we > > > > have 158 Koji builders in default channel that are able to run RPM > > > > builds. Their total capacity is 566. Therefore it should be safe to > > > > increase MBS NUM_CONCURRENT_BUILDS to at least 100. Especially since > > > > Koji builds submitted by MBS have lower priority than default for > > > > non-modular component builds submitted by packagers, so > > > > packager-submitted builds will take precedence over builds submitted > > > > by MBS. > > > > > > > > > > Does the koji numbers above take into account architectures? While > > > have 158 builders they are spread out over a lot of architectures with > > > ~12 s390x builders, ~30 ppc64le, ~20 arm and ~20 aarch64 builders and > > > I guess ~70 x86_64 builders. So while we could build a lot more x86_64 > > > builds at once, could we completely swamp the other arches and > > > actually cause problems for even completing the x86_64 ones? > > > > > > If the architecture would be a problem, should we look at the > > > smaller/slowest number of builders and work out what its capacity is > > > and not go much above that? > > > > That should not be a problem. Koji can handle thousands of builds > > submitted at the same time. This happens, for example, during mass > > rebuilds. > > > > Yeah.. sorry I didn't explain things clearly. Koji can handle it but > does it make the developer experience worse across the board? We could > do a mass rebuild every day and koji wouldn't break a sweat.. but > developers actually wanting to get stuff out of Fedora would hate it > because the queues for builds would be so long. My questions should > have stated that. As I mentioned in the first email, builds submitted by MBS have lower priority than default. If all Koji builders are loaded with modular builds then developer may need to wait a bit before one of them completes. But once any builder has free capacity, it will pick up developer-submitted builds before MBS-submitted ones. -- Mikolaj Izdebski _______________________________________________ infrastructure mailing list -- infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to infrastructure-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx