Re: [zanata-users] [Fedora] Plan Stage 0: Move to Zanata

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(2014年07月22日 00:16), Marcelo Barbosa wrote:
Hi all,

    I'm trying to organize my staff at translate.zanata.org
<http://translate.zanata.org>, so that it is synchronized with what we
have today in our wiki [1] and [2] TX, however the bug [3] opened today
and the change in permissions today, prevent me from continuing this
activity. If the teams are different for each environment please let me
know, because I have received requests for new contributors in the
translate.zanata.org <http://translate.zanata.org>.

Yes, the teams are different btw translate.zanata and fedora.zanata. And this is one of major reason to have separate instance.

'translate.zanata' instance is used by various projects including non-fedora projects. But Zanata has no Organization feature yet like Transifex (see the string 'organization/fedora/' in TX url [2]), and it allows only one team per language, aka one pt-BR team within the instance. So it is still possible that a translator exists who does not belong to Fedora L10n team but translate non-fedora project which s/he has interests. There is no way to control or group users to reflect the users structure in wiki [1].

Atm separate instance, fedora.zanata, is best option for us. So that it allows us to organize users structure which can be synchronized with our wiki team [1]. Additionally, this instance will be set FAS login only, therefore non-fedora translator (user with no FAS account) is unable to login.

noriko


[1]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Brazilian_Portuguese_Team
[2]:
https://fedora.transifex.com/organization/fedora/team/17078/members/pt_BR/
[3]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1121655

Best Regards,

firemanxbr


On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Marcelo Barbosa
<firemanxbr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:firemanxbr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    Hi Patrick,

        Thank you for feedback, I was not finding the path, with his
    explanation was easy, I'll translate for our entire community Zanata
    already see pt-BR.

    Cheers,

    firemanxbr


    On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Patrick Huang <pahuang@xxxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:pahuang@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

        Hi Marcelo,

        Can you access this page
        https://translate.zanata.org/zanata/webtrans/Application.seam?project=zanata-server&iteration=master&localeId=pt-BR&locale=en
        ?
        I can't see any problem in turns of your permission or project
        settings that will prevent you from accessing it. Are you having
        problem finding your way there?

        To access or translate that project in pt-BR, first go to the
        project "zanata-server", then click on version "master". There
        are 87 languages listed under Languages tab. You can click on
        the the pager at the bottom of the list to navigate to pt-BR or
        you can type it in the search right under Language tab heading.
        Once you see language pt-BR, click on it the right hand side
        will display document list of this project version. Click on any
        document (in this case just one) will open the translation
        editor as above linked.

        Let us know if you have any further problems.

        Regards,

        Patrick Huang

        Senior Software Engineer
        Engineering - Internationalisation
        Red Hat

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            <mailto:firemanxbr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
            *To: *"Noriko Mizumoto" <noriko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
            <mailto:noriko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>, "Fedora Infrastructure"
            <infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
            <mailto:infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
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            *Subject: *Re: [zanata-users] [Fedora] Plan Stage 0: Move to
            Zanata


            Hi,

                How can we translate the Zanata to pt-BR ? When entering
            [1] we realized that we don't have access to pt-BR in the
            Group "Zanata" and in the project "Zanata server" we need to
            do some process?

            [1]: https://translate.zanata.org/

            Thanks,

            firemanxbr


            On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Noriko Mizumoto
            <noriko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:noriko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
            wrote:

                (This mail is cc'd to Infra and websites teams as this
                activity may
                impact Infra and websites teams.)

                Hi all translators,

                With all suggestions/ideas/info posted by all of you, I
                had first meetup
                with zanata team to draft a plan to start with. I like
                to share the news
                I got from zanata team here. I will update the plan page
                with the
                following information later tomorrow. The move will
                occur in parallel as
                suggested. The communication channels with zanata team
                are zanata-users
                ML [1] and #zanata channel on freenode. Due to the limited
                capacity/resource of zanata team, posting to ML would be
                appreciated
                than pinging on irc.
                I thank you so much to Zanata team!

                Stage 0 - Establish Test Instance on Openshift
                Available at: localized-zanatatest.itos.redhat.com
                <http://localized-zanatatest.itos.redhat.com>
                Period: 4 weeks
                * This is trial run. Log in with FAS account and create
                new zanata
                account, and play. It is important to be loud and file a
                bug for any
                request [1]. Please make sure to append "[Fedora]" at
                the beginning of
                the subject. This will give a bug priority ;p
                E.g. [Fedora] Organization feature is needed.

                Stage 1 - Establish fedora.zanata.org
                <http://fedora.zanata.org> (FAS only instance)
                Available at: TBA
                Period: n/a
                * This will contain only essential items, no history is
                imported. First
                every language coordinator needs to create new account
                and become your
                team coordinator. And then the coordinators will help
                and approve other
                translators to join. Note, there is no auto or
                transparent migration.

                Stage 2 - Import history and Add features requested
                Available at: TBA
                Period: n/a
                * History (such as reviewed marks, notification,
                translator credit per
                msg) and any additional feature requested (and approved)
                will be
                migrated. It is essential to evaluate and decide what
                level of history
                to be imported (or may be given up).

                [1]:https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Zanata

                cheers

                noriko
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