[I'm not subscribed to this list, please keep me in CC.] Heya, A little while ago, we (Matthew Miller, myself, Attila Fazekas (upstream OpenStack developer) had an IRC discussion (on #openstack-qa, Freenode) with OpenStack upstream CI infrastructure folks about their concerns for continuing to have Fedora as a default to run as CI voting guest (Nova instance). They (mostly Sean Dague - a major upstream OpenStack contributor who voiced these) outlined a few issues: 1. It's not possible to download from the fedora infrastructure reliably - 10% failure rate from their cloud providers (HP and RAX). - About this point, when mattdm inquired - "is the failure in hitting the fedora mirrors or fedora core infrastructure?", their response - "I don't fully know, I think going through the url we are using we get bounced to mirrors". 2. There are possibly issues with the normal upstream fedora image that could be fixed with custom respin. - NOTE: I'm doubtful of this idea, as existing Fedora cloud images itself are not really extensively tested. I'd think focusing on _official_ cloud images and having a solid set of tests so that it can be consumed by cloud projects (OpenStack, etc). - Having a custom respin means that we're off the main path for testing of the image -- which again needs _some_ level of assurance that it can be used in a higher-level cloud project's CI infr- which again needs _some_ level of assurance that it can be used in a higher-level cloud project's CI infra. 3. Another important point OpenStack infra folks emphasized is - these images will get 4000 test runs a week on them Any suggestions to allay these are welcome. -- /kashyap _______________________________________________ infrastructure mailing list infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/infrastructure