============================================ #fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2013-08-15) ============================================ Meeting started by nirik at 19:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-08-15/infrastructure.2013-08-15-19.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * welcome y'all (nirik, 19:00:01) * New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks (nirik, 19:01:42) * Applications status / discussion (nirik, 19:03:14) * congrats on badges launch. kudos to oddshocks and threebean and many others. (nirik, 19:03:56) * fedocal update waiting for sept (nirik, 19:06:06) * lots of links now on badges trac to show where help us needed: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ (nirik, 19:10:47) * LINK: http://ur1.ca/f2fhw (pingou, 19:13:58) * Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 19:16:44) * thanks to smooge for reissuing all our puppet certs when they expired tuesday morning. (nirik, 19:17:14) * ACTION: nirik to move our stuff to using roles. (nirik, 19:17:37) * added a bunch more hosts to rdiff-backup today as well. (nirik, 19:18:16) * we have 2 new bvirthosts to add in soon. (nirik, 19:19:39) * we have the new blade server to add in soon (nirik, 19:19:49) * Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 19:21:51) * LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ (nirik, 19:21:52) * Open Floor (nirik, 19:23:12) * triage welcome on badges ideas (nirik, 19:28:10) Meeting ended at 19:39:29 UTC. Action Items ------------ * nirik to move our stuff to using roles. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * nirik * nirik to move our stuff to using roles. * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (75) * pingou (25) * oddshocks (15) * adamw (12) * smooge (12) * mdomsch (7) * Smoother1rOgZ (7) * zodbot (4) * puiterwijk (3) * number80 (3) * relrod (3) * kushal (2) * tflink (2) * abadger1999 (1) * bitlord (1) * cyberworm541 (1) * lmacken (0) * threebean (0) * dgilmore (0) -- 19:00:00 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2013-08-15) 19:00:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Aug 15 19:00:00 2013 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:00 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure 19:00:01 <nirik> #topic welcome y'all 19:00:01 <nirik> #chair smooge relrod nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean pingou puiterwijk 19:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 19:00:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge threebean 19:00:28 * cyberworm541 is here 19:00:33 * pingou here 19:00:34 <smooge> is here 19:00:39 * tflink is lurking 19:00:39 * oddshocks here 19:00:41 * adamw shows up, sure 19:00:47 * mdomsch 19:00:53 * Smoother1rOgZ here 19:00:57 * number80 lurking 2 19:01:03 * bitlord here :-) 19:01:12 * smooge sits waiting for his airplane flight tomorrow and some semblance of a real work tomorrow night 19:01:36 <nirik> hey everyone. ;) Lets go ahead and get started I guess. 19:01:42 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks 19:02:01 <nirik> Any new folks like to introduce themselves or apprentices have questions or comments? 19:02:25 <kushal> I want to do more work in future 19:02:37 <nirik> cool. ;) 19:02:42 <kushal> may be starting with setting up koji stages 19:02:46 <adamw> if anyone doesn't know who I am, i'm the crazy badge guy from flock. 19:02:50 <oddshocks> lol 19:03:02 <tflink> adamw: interesting way to introduce yourself 19:03:03 <nirik> adamw: everyone who looks at the leaderboard knows who you are at least. ;) 19:03:04 * relrod here (sorry, doing some other things too) 19:03:14 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion 19:03:17 <pingou> nirik: and the planet ^^ 19:03:19 <nirik> So, on to applications... 19:03:33 <nirik> badges launched right before flock and seems to be a hit. :) 19:03:36 <number80> hi, you met me at flock and i'd to help with apps: mostly hacking on fedocal and trying to patch things in fedmsg 19:03:48 <pingou> fedocal 2 quite ready but I don't really want to push the update before leaving, so it'll wait for September I think 19:03:56 <nirik> #info congrats on badges launch. kudos to oddshocks and threebean and many others. 19:04:03 <pingou> s/fedocal 2/fedocal 0.2.0/ 19:04:07 <nirik> number80: welcome! 19:04:23 <nirik> pingou: ok. 19:04:30 <oddshocks> :D 19:04:38 <pingou> gg oddshocks and threebean :) 19:04:48 <adamw> thanks folks! 19:05:05 <nirik> pingou: tenatively we have alpha freeze from sept 3rd to 17th... 19:05:21 <pingou> nirik: arg, that's gonna clash :/ 19:05:24 <nirik> yeah. 19:05:42 <pingou> well, we can do the stg instance and we'll have to wait alpha for prod 19:05:43 <nirik> we can always do a freeze break for it. ;) 19:05:51 <pingou> also an option :) 19:05:58 <mdomsch> sept 3? that's coming up fast 19:06:06 <nirik> #info fedocal update waiting for sept 19:06:12 <nirik> mdomsch: yeah. 19:06:17 <nirik> mdomsch: branching is 20th 19:06:31 <smooge> I feel like we are always doing alphas 19:06:53 <Smoother1rOgZ> heh 19:06:58 <nirik> The great cycle. ;) 19:07:26 <nirik> any other application side news? Any places badges could use assistance in particular? 19:08:12 <adamw> in case anyone didn't see there's a bunch of query links on the front page of the new badge trac now: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ 19:08:23 <adamw> you can find badges that need definitions, need review, need artwork... 19:08:23 * pingou had not 19:09:11 <nirik> adamw: do you think it would be good to come up with a style guide for tagger ? since people are kind of free forming tags with no conventions... 19:09:16 <pingou> adamw: nice work 19:09:43 <oddshocks> nirik: +1 on some guidance on tagger 19:09:59 <oddshocks> big thanks to adamw for customizing the trac instance for us :) 19:10:17 <adamw> nirik: i'd leave that to oddshocks 19:10:31 * oddshocks is sort of taking a breather after Flock (was quite overwhelming) but is excited to see where badges goes 19:10:37 <adamw> i wasn't sure if the idea was to just collect a ton of tags and let natural selection sort them out - the UI seemed to be set up for that, intentionally minimal 19:10:47 <nirik> #info lots of links now on badges trac to show where help us needed: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ 19:10:53 <adamw> oddshocks: yw :) you know the overwhelming was an indication of huge success, right? :) 19:11:02 <nirik> adamw: yeah, to some extent... you can vote down tags that suck. 19:11:18 <oddshocks> adamw: It was cool but man I wasn't prepared. glad most people seem to dig it though 19:11:46 <adamw> nirik: some form of auto-complete or auto-correct might be nice; if you type a tag that's nearly like a voted-on existing on, suggest that one instead, should get some clumping 19:11:53 <oddshocks> As far as badges help, the frac instance linked above and the issue list https://github.com/fedora-infra/tahrir/issues are great places to look 19:11:56 <nirik> adamw: yeah. 19:11:56 <adamw> s/existing on/existing one/ 19:12:09 <oddshocks> /s/frac/trac 19:12:59 <nirik> We hashed out a lot of other stuff at flock as well application wise... some great work on bodhi 2.0, figured out how we want our fedora-oauth to work, etc. 19:13:18 <pingou> I still have my notes if that can help 19:13:30 <pingou> (I guess we would like to put them somewhere on the wiki) 19:13:37 <nirik> pingou: yeah, could you post to the list? I got your paste, but I can't find it now. ;( 19:13:50 <nirik> yeah, wiki might be good too for the oauth stuff at very least. 19:13:58 <pingou> http://ur1.ca/f2fhw 19:14:21 <nirik> good. thanks. 19:14:22 <pingou> abadger1999 we didn't speak about python-fedora finally :/ 19:14:23 <Smoother1rOgZ> yeah, I'm writing up a follow-up email for these 19:14:36 <nirik> oh, also, hyperkitty... 19:14:39 <Smoother1rOgZ> pingou: your note might be helpful 19:14:51 <pingou> Smoother1rOgZ: cool 19:14:59 <abadger1999> pingou: Yeah -- we didn't conclude that :-( 19:15:04 <nirik> I have now a mailman01.stg instance setup. Next steps are: setup packages/playbooks for it, setup db, test a bunch. 19:15:40 <nirik> once we have the stg one solid we can make a prod one and migrate some select lists. 19:15:45 <Smoother1rOgZ> nirik: so, will send the email in a few. 19:15:52 <nirik> Smoother1rOgZ: great! 19:15:56 <nirik> thanks 19:16:44 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion 19:16:52 <nirik> on the sysadmin side, lets see... 19:17:05 <pingou> a bit more ansible? 19:17:14 <nirik> #info thanks to smooge for reissuing all our puppet certs when they expired tuesday morning. 19:17:26 <nirik> yeah, we have a ton of ansible stuff to do. 19:17:37 <nirik> #action nirik to move our stuff to using roles. 19:18:16 <nirik> #info added a bunch more hosts to rdiff-backup today as well. 19:19:39 <nirik> #info we have 2 new bvirthosts to add in soon. 19:19:49 <nirik> #info we have the new blade server to add in soon 19:19:59 <smooge> I still need to do some hosts 19:20:43 <smooge> my internet link is rather tenuous so I may need help doing them 19:20:50 <nirik> I can assist 19:21:08 <nirik> Oh, if someone wants a task, we have 2 scripts still using func that need porting to ansible. 19:21:37 <nirik> once they are moved we can nuke func 19:21:51 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items 19:21:52 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ 19:22:00 <nirik> any upcoming tasks people would like to note or schedule? 19:22:41 <nirik> I need to add the f20 stuff in that affects us. Will do that soon. 19:23:12 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 19:23:13 <smooge> which tasks are those? 19:23:28 <nirik> smooge: like our freezes... 19:23:30 <smooge> typing through dial-up is slow 19:23:40 <smooge> sorry I meant which func tasks need to be done 19:23:42 <nirik> any items for open floor? questions? comments? 19:23:49 <nirik> smooge: it's 2 scripts... let me see: 19:23:56 <mdomsch> I need to get an MM bugfix release out 19:24:08 <mdomsch> not sure when I'll have time for it; not urgent, mostly removes hotfixes 19:24:25 <mdomsch> bapp02 hasn't OOMd since we reduced the number of crawlers last week 19:24:42 <nirik> modules/puppet/files/check_puppet_run.py (checks that puppet has checked in in X hours and sends to nagios) 19:25:05 <nirik> modules/puppet/files/make_puppet_reports.py (checks machines that have cronic puppet issues and sends a note about that) 19:25:17 <nirik> so, both also go away when puppet does, but that will be a bit longer. 19:25:19 <mdomsch> smooge: archive has releases/15/15/ for some reason, and perms are such that I can't see what's in there 19:25:22 <adamw> oh, another note on fedora-badges - if people can help triage that'd be great. right now i still haven't written up any policy or anything, but it should be pretty obvious what things should be set to what when. if you add proposed art to a bug, set artwork status to Proposed, if you write a yaml file, set definition status to Partial or Complete, Needs Review, etc... 19:25:51 <mdomsch> which server has /pub/ mounted rw ? 19:25:53 <adamw> design team members can set artwork to 'approved' and people with commit rights can set definitions to 'approved' (this isn't enforced in any way for now, hard to do in trac) 19:27:37 <nirik> mdomsch: let me think... releng04 probibly... 19:28:10 <nirik> #info triage welcome on badges ideas 19:29:19 <nirik> mdomsch: might have to be ftpsync too. ;) 19:30:20 <nirik> Oh, one other item: do we want to start discussing (possibly on list) doing a FAD later this year? or early next year... 19:30:44 * pingou is in :] 19:31:09 <pingou> Ansible, Fas3, HyperKitty 19:31:15 <Smoother1rOgZ> sure 19:31:24 <smooge> mdomsch, 15/15 is a copy of 15 19:31:36 <smooge> it is now gone 19:31:57 <smooge> mdomsch, I think I did a cp -avl and did it twice 19:31:59 <nirik> all good ones. database stuff, bodhi 2.0, 2fa'ing things. 19:32:01 <oddshocks> define FAD? 19:32:10 <nirik> oddshocks: Fedora Activity Day 19:32:11 <pingou> Fedora Activity Day 19:32:15 <pingou> too slow :) 19:32:25 <pingou> oddshocks: hackfest ;-) 19:32:25 <oddshocks> sounds cool 19:32:29 <oddshocks> hackfests++ 19:32:41 <nirik> basically it's a targeted gathering... a small group gathers physically somewhere and works on one task thats harder to do ad-hock 19:33:40 <nirik> so, lets narrow down ideas and make that happen on the list. 19:33:49 <relrod> +1 19:33:56 <Smoother1rOgZ> +1 19:34:24 <pingou> I was wondering if we want to make 2 tasks one more sysadmin, the other more dev app 19:34:40 <pingou> or is it easier if we have only 1 task? 19:34:49 <nirik> pingou: possible. Usually they want FAD's to have one single goal, but we could look at some kind of 2 goal thing. 19:35:04 <nirik> That might allow us to move people between the two goals and get further on both 19:35:28 <pingou> or not, but at least we'll know :) 19:35:30 <nirik> The thing to avoid is something that we can't get done, or scattering off and trying to do too many things. 19:36:32 <nirik> ok, if nothing else will close out the meeting in a minute here. 19:37:03 <oddshocks> It was good meeting many of you in person this weekend. 19:37:13 <oddshocks> Cool group of people 19:37:26 <nirik> yeah! was very nice to meet up with everyone. 19:37:29 <pingou> oddshocks: +1, was nice :) 19:37:30 <relrod> indeed, had a great time 19:37:52 <puiterwijk> +1 from the Netherlands as well :) 19:37:59 <number80> oddshocks: the same, it helped me breaking the shyness barrier ;-) 19:38:05 <smooge> I want to say hi to eveyrone I met also and I had a good time 19:38:43 <oddshocks> puiterwijk: good to see you made it home well 19:38:58 <puiterwijk> oddshocks: yeah, I did :) same to you ;) 19:39:00 <nirik> looking forward to next year. ;) 19:39:19 <puiterwijk> nirik: +1 on that one 19:39:23 <nirik> anyhow, do continue over on #fedora-admin, #fedora-apps and #fedora-noc 19:39:27 <nirik> thanks for coming everyone! 19:39:29 <nirik> #endmeeting
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