============================================ #fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2012-12-13) ============================================ Meeting started by nirik at 19:00:05 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-12-13/infrastructure.2012-12-13-19.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * welcome to the thunderdome (nirik, 19:00:06) * New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. (nirik, 19:03:58) * Applications status / discussion (nirik, 19:06:09) * LINK: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/collectd/bin/index.cgi?hostname=packages01&hostname=packages02&plugin=swap×pan=86400&action=show_selection&ok_button=OK (nirik, 19:19:10) * Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 19:22:25) * Private Cloud status update / discussion (nirik, 19:28:59) * Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 19:31:48) * 2012-12-11 to 2013-01-08 F18 Final Freeze (nirik, 19:31:48) * 2012-12-20 colorado RH holiday lunch (nirik, 19:31:49) * 2012-12-24 to 2013-01-01 Red Hat Shutdown for holidays. (nirik, 19:31:49) * 2012-01-05 PHX2 outage. (nirik, 19:31:49) * 2013-01-08 F18 release. (nirik, 19:31:50) * 2013-01-18 to 2013-01-20 FUDCON Lawrence (nirik, 19:31:51) * 2013-01-29 f19 feature submission deadline. (nirik, 19:31:53) * Open Floor (nirik, 19:34:24) Meeting ended at 19:45:55 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (101) * threebean (16) * mdomsch (14) * smooge (11) * abadger1999 (9) * lmacken (9) * SmootherFrOgZ (6) * maayke (4) * zodbot (4) * marcdeop (1) * samkottler (1) * skvidal (1) * ricky (0) * dgilmore (0) * CodeBlock (0) -- 19:00:05 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2012-12-13) 19:00:05 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Dec 13 19:00:05 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:05 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:00:06 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure 19:00:06 <nirik> #topic welcome to the thunderdome 19:00:06 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal CodeBlock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean 19:00:06 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 19:00:06 <zodbot> Current chairs: CodeBlock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge threebean 19:00:13 <nirik> who all is around for meeting? 19:00:17 * threebean is here 19:00:19 * samkottler is here 19:00:20 * lmacken 19:01:01 <smooge> I am here 19:01:51 * nirik will wait a bit more for folks to wander in 19:02:02 * skvidal is here 19:02:05 * maayke is here 19:02:20 * marcdeop is here 19:02:55 * SmootherFrOgZ is around 19:03:50 <nirik> ok, lets go ahead and get started. 19:03:58 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. 19:03:58 * abadger1999 here 19:04:06 <nirik> any new folks, or apprentices with questions? 19:04:16 <maayke> hi guys, i'm new here. I'm Linux System Admin and i would like to help with some tasks. I've been using Linux: RedHat(on servers) and Fedora since 2006, and other for a few years before that. I'm interested in sysadmin tasks. 19:04:39 <nirik> excellent. welcome maayke. 19:04:51 <maayke> thanks 19:04:53 <nirik> please see me in #fedora-admin after the meeting and I can get you setup in our apprentice group. 19:05:06 <maayke> ok, thanks 19:05:22 <nirik> any other new folks? 19:06:07 <nirik> ok, lets move on then... please do chime in anytime with questions or comments. ;) 19:06:09 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion 19:06:17 <nirik> any applications news this week or upcoming? 19:06:30 <nirik> we are in final freeze, but staging work is always open. ;) 19:07:25 <threebean> I've been trying to speed up the fedora-packages app and have some success with a new lib called dogpile.cache (python-dogpile-cache). 19:07:31 <nirik> I know threebean and lmacken have been working on the packages app and in particular it's bug handling page 19:07:36 * threebean nods 19:07:37 <nirik> jinx. ;) 19:08:01 <threebean> nirik: we applied it to the whole app; now everything's sped up, not just bugs. :) 19:08:06 <nirik> oh, I can share some info about askbot here... we are behind on versions, so I am trying to update it to the newest upstream. 19:08:13 <threebean> we'll probably deploy to stg soon so people can poke at it. 19:08:19 <SmootherFrOgZ> abadger1999: do you have things to add to fas otherwise I think we can start push 0.8.16 to stg 19:08:28 <nirik> sadly, the new version requires 2 new packages. One of them I just branched for epel and should be fine. 19:08:51 <nirik> the other even more sadly, has 0 license info. I mailed the author, but have had no response. 19:09:11 <nirik> threebean: cool! could this apply to some of our other apps too? 19:09:29 <threebean> nirik: definitely. 19:09:37 <abadger1999> SmootherFrOgZ: I'd like to get some changes in surrounding the openid problem we had yesterday. 19:09:39 <nirik> nice. 19:09:56 <abadger1999> SmootherFrOgZ: But I can finish those today if you want to work on getting new fas to stg tomorrow/this weekend. 19:10:52 <SmootherFrOgZ> abadger1999: nods. I can wait this weekend or even next week if needed. 19:10:53 <abadger1999> threebean: how outdated does the bugz cache get using dogpile? 19:11:09 <threebean> abadger1999: we can configure it from puppet, but I have it set to 300 seconds locally right now. 19:11:35 <abadger1999> threebean: thinking about the workflow of, open bugz, open a page per open bug. work on some set of bugs. Close. Refresh bugz page to see overview of what's left. 19:11:46 <abadger1999> threebean: sounds like that will work fine. 19:12:00 <threebean> cool 19:12:12 <nirik> should we add that it's cached to the page? 19:12:30 <threebean> nirik: good idea.. we can stick that in the footer. 19:12:33 <abadger1999> nirik: that would be a ggod idea. 19:12:40 <nirik> ie, 'this page is refreshed every 300 seconds' or something. 19:13:23 <nirik> also in app news, pingou had: "I hope to release fedocal 0.1.0 alpha this week-end :)" 19:13:34 <threebean> \o/ 19:14:35 <smooge> yay 19:14:52 <nirik> lmacken: you around? have you had any chance to get anywhere with bodhi 2 recently? I wonder if it it's in enough state we could setup a test instance for people to see it? (in sight, in mind and all that). :) 19:15:26 <nirik> just a thought. 19:15:33 * nirik looks for any other application side news. 19:16:19 <nirik> oh, we have a test instance setup for a gallery3. I've not gotten to doing anything on it... if there are folks with cycles that want to work on it, please let me know. 19:16:22 <lmacken> nirik: there's not much to see right now other than bare-bones grids and json apis, but I'll try and get something staging ready shortly 19:16:30 <nirik> I think we were waiting a bit for relrod to come up with a php fas plugin for it. 19:17:03 <nirik> lmacken: it would be cool if we had at least something ready for fudcon... and could get off the 'keep tweaking bodhi1' treadmill. ;) 19:17:12 <lmacken> nirik: yeah, exactly 19:17:59 <smooge> threebean, lmacken, the swap problem on packages... do we need to add more ram? 19:18:16 <lmacken> smooge: it doesn't seem like the swap is being used because it is out of memory 19:18:18 <nirik> I don't think that would help, it's consuming all memory+swap 19:18:24 <lmacken> someone suggested tweaking the swapiness 19:18:31 <nirik> I thought it was using it all. 19:18:51 <lmacken> nirik: it had a bunch free when I was poking at it yesterday 19:18:58 <lmacken> not sure... collectd would know? 19:18:58 <smooge> when I got onto the box memory was full and swap was full.. but there are probably multiple issues 19:18:59 <nirik> huh. 19:19:02 * nirik looks at collectd 19:19:10 <nirik> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/collectd/bin/index.cgi?hostname=packages01&hostname=packages02&plugin=swap×pan=86400&action=show_selection&ok_button=OK 19:19:59 <nirik> so I think it's def just leaking. 19:20:04 <nirik> or not freeing up things. 19:20:13 <nirik> is that wsgi? 19:20:23 <threebean> on packages01, it looks like it starts a midnight.. 19:20:27 <threebean> it that when the cronjob runs? 19:20:32 <threebean> cronjobs 19:21:14 <nirik> daily should be 4am 19:21:36 <nirik> anyhow, we should fix that... restarting it is anoying. ;) 19:21:47 <nirik> any other apps news? 19:22:25 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion 19:22:33 <nirik> ok, on sysadmin side of things... lets see. 19:22:47 <nirik> we have some new boxes coming in, but will need to get them racked before we can do much with them. 19:22:58 <lmacken> threebean: yeah, I think the cron jobs are probably pushing it over. 19:23:04 <lmacken> giving packages01 a little more ram couldn't hurt :) 19:23:21 <nirik> we still have 3 bits of storage to migrate. I am hoping to do that after f18 is final... 19:23:35 <nirik> our wiki attachments nfs (should be a very short downtime for wiki) 19:24:01 <nirik> and our 2 iscsi volumes (should be migrating 2 machines (shutdown, bring up, shutdown again, move back)) 19:24:29 <nirik> there's also a network outage scheduled for phx2 for early jan... (at least I think it still is, haven't heard) 19:24:37 <smooge> Jan 5 19:24:41 <nirik> yeah 19:24:42 <smooge> I believe 19:25:03 <nirik> thats the last I heard. 19:26:07 <nirik> I did some work on making trac faster. I found one nasty bottleneck. I need to adjust all the trac instances for that (it was syncing git repos on every page load) 19:26:34 <threebean> on every HTTP request? 19:26:43 <nirik> smooge: have you heard anything yet about the i2 download move stuff? 19:26:55 <smooge> no :/ 19:27:05 <smooge> sometime soon ish.. maybe 19:27:06 <nirik> threebean: every one to trac. It would sync the git repo, then process the sql or whatever for the page load... 19:27:19 <threebean> man. wow. 19:27:25 <nirik> yeah, crazy. 19:27:40 <nirik> I guess to keep it's source browser up to date... 19:27:49 <nirik> you can disable it with a simple ini add. 19:28:14 <nirik> makes things about 1/2 as much loading time. 19:28:18 * mdomsch lurks 19:28:47 <nirik> anything else sysadmin side? 19:28:59 <nirik> #topic Private Cloud status update / discussion 19:29:13 <nirik> we continue to work with the cloud setup and ansible repo... ;) 19:29:47 <nirik> I suspect we cna look at things at fudcon and see if we can knock out the rest to make them 'production' ready 19:30:28 <SmootherFrOgZ> nirik: sure thing ;) 19:30:38 <nirik> SmootherFrOgZ: you gonna make it to fudcon? 19:30:44 <SmootherFrOgZ> nirik: yep 19:30:47 <mdomsch> network outage 3 days before release? 19:30:47 <nirik> awesome. 19:30:47 <mdomsch> ugh 19:30:51 <mdomsch> lousy timing 19:30:54 <nirik> mdomsch: yeah, I am not happy about that. 19:31:02 <nirik> mdomsch: they claim it will be <15min for us 19:31:08 <mdomsch> k 19:31:17 <nirik> but you know how things go... 19:31:39 <nirik> ok, moving on to upcoming items: 19:31:48 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items 19:31:48 <nirik> #info 2012-12-11 to 2013-01-08 F18 Final Freeze 19:31:49 <nirik> #info 2012-12-20 colorado RH holiday lunch 19:31:49 <nirik> #info 2012-12-24 to 2013-01-01 Red Hat Shutdown for holidays. 19:31:49 <nirik> #info 2012-01-05 PHX2 outage. 19:31:50 <nirik> #info 2013-01-08 F18 release. 19:31:51 <nirik> #info 2013-01-18 to 2013-01-20 FUDCON Lawrence 19:31:53 <nirik> #info 2013-01-29 f19 feature submission deadline. 19:31:56 <nirik> anything we need to note or schedule? 19:32:38 <mdomsch> oooh, I want in on the colorado lunch. :-) 19:32:41 * nirik notes the colorado rh lunch is on there because I will be away from keyboard for a while that day driving down to it and back. ;) 19:32:52 <nirik> mdomsch: you gonna be in co then? :) 19:33:02 * mdomsch passes through Denver 12/29 19:33:33 <nirik> I'll be around if you want to grab a beer somewhere. ;) 19:33:35 <mdomsch> how confident is rel-eng / QA on hitting 01/08 release? 19:33:55 <nirik> There's a lot of blockers right now, but they are knocking them out... hard to say 19:34:24 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 19:34:36 <nirik> anyone have anything for open floor? ideas? suggestions? rants? 19:35:07 <mdomsch> MM grew a new set of repository pointers this afternoon: https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-install-18&arch=x86_64 19:35:11 <mdomsch> for fedup's use 19:35:23 <nirik> cool. ;) 19:35:24 <mdomsch> just DB items, no code changes, so it doesn't break freeze 19:35:46 <mdomsch> is there a list of stuff to accomplish at FUDCon? 19:36:04 <nirik> there's not, but perhaps we should make one. 19:36:27 * mdomsch also raises 3 cheers for the 2FA team 19:36:51 <nirik> yeah, I'm glad we have that in place now. 19:37:32 <nirik> and we will probibly want to discuss where we want to expand it to down the road. 19:37:39 <nirik> (if anywhere) 19:37:46 <abadger1999> <nod> 19:38:20 <abadger1999> Due to how well the fad worked, one thought was to use fudcon to plan for some fads that we should have over the course of hte year. 19:38:26 <smooge> RH lunch in CO? 19:38:36 <nirik> smooge: yep. You could drive up! :) 19:38:41 <smooge> next you will get an office!!! 19:38:57 <nirik> abadger1999: yeah, agreed... 19:39:16 <SmootherFrOgZ> abadger1999: +1 19:40:20 <nirik> where was that wiki page we had about things to do from the last fudcon? 19:40:28 <nirik> I wanted to make a new version of it for the next one. 19:41:09 <nirik> oh well, will just make a new page. 19:41:31 * mdomsch wants some real-world examples of using the new message bus, so I can hook MM up to it 19:41:58 <nirik> we can def provide that. 19:43:02 <nirik> anyhow, I will make a fudcon planning page of some kind and we can gather ideas and discuss them next week... hash out the big sessions we want to have. 19:43:45 <nirik> ok, anything else? or shall we call it a meeting ? 19:43:59 <nirik> mdomsch: drop by #fedora-apps and threebean can point you at docs for fedmsg 19:44:15 <threebean> mdomsch: I missed your comment. yeah, I can show you. :) 19:45:38 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone. 19:45:45 <smooge> okie dokie 19:45:49 <nirik> do continue in #fedora-admin, #fedora-noc and #fedora-apps! 19:45:55 <nirik> #endmeeting
Attachment:
signature.asc
Description: PGP signature
_______________________________________________ infrastructure mailing list infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/infrastructure
