============================================ #fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2012-08-30) ============================================ Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-08-30/infrastructure.2012-08-30-18.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Howdy! (nirik, 18:00:01) * New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks (nirik, 18:03:26) * Applications status / discussion (nirik, 18:07:40) * Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 18:17:53) * we have been seeing an odd httpd crash on app servers of late. (nirik, 18:18:17) * ongoing problem with log02 and it's host, sometimes requiring reboot. (nirik, 18:19:15) * skvidal has been working on cloud stuff (nirik, 18:19:55) * will be announcing status.fedoraproject.org... I have a draft announcement in gobby, corrections/editing welcome (nirik, 18:21:27) * Private Cloud policies and status (nirik, 18:22:19) * Upcoming items (nirik, 18:23:16) * 2012-08-14 to 2012-09-04 F18 Alpha Freeze (nirik, 18:24:46) * 2012-08-31 end of 2nd quarter (nirik, 18:24:46) * 2012-09-04 F18 Alpha release. (nirik, 18:24:47) * 2012-09-10 to 2012-09-24 Skvidal is out (nirik, 18:24:47) * 2012-09-25 to 2012-10-09 F18 Beta Freeze (nirik, 18:24:47) * 2012-10-09 F18 Beta release (nirik, 18:24:47) * 2012-10-23 to 2012-11-13 F18 Final Freeze (nirik, 18:24:49) * 2012-11-13 F18 release. (nirik, 18:24:51) * 2012-11-26 to 2012-11-29 Security FAD (nirik, 18:24:53) * 2012-11-30 end of 3nd quarter (nirik, 18:24:55) * Open Floor (nirik, 18:31:13) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3456 (nirik, 18:31:54) Meeting ended at 18:37:03 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (88) * threebean (16) * abadger1999 (13) * smooge (10) * lmacken (6) * Spack (6) * zodbot (4) * tflink (1) * ricky (0) * mdomsch (0) * skvidal (0) * dgilmore (0) * CodeBlock (0) -- 18:00:00 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2012-08-30) 18:00:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Aug 30 18:00:00 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:00 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure 18:00:01 <nirik> #topic Howdy! 18:00:01 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal CodeBlock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean 18:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 18:00:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: CodeBlock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge threebean 18:00:08 <nirik> who all is around? 18:00:11 * lmacken 18:01:17 * threebean too 18:01:32 * tflink is around 18:02:04 * Spack 18:03:16 <nirik> ok, lets go ahead and dive in then... 18:03:26 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks 18:03:43 <nirik> Any new folks want to introduce themselves? or apprentices want to ask questions or note anything? 18:04:51 <Spack> Hello 18:04:59 * abadger1999 here too 18:05:01 <nirik> hey Spack. 18:05:14 <Spack> I'm arround since the begining of the week 18:05:16 <nirik> you interested in contributing to Infrastructure? 18:05:54 <Spack> yeah, i'm in discovering mode and i would like to help if any 18:06:24 <Spack> i leave in Belgium and i work as sysadmin 18:06:27 <nirik> excellent. 18:06:43 <nirik> I can point you to some docs after the meeting... happy to answer questions as we go along too... 18:06:46 <nirik> and welcome. ;) 18:06:54 <Spack> thanks 18:07:30 <nirik> ok, shall we move on then... 18:07:40 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion 18:07:49 <nirik> any applications news this week or upcoming? 18:08:18 <abadger1999> Been working on the elections rewrite this week. 18:08:19 <lmacken> nothing too exciting... making openhw2012 into a static app today 18:08:38 <abadger1999> flask is proving to be very accessible to newcomers. 18:08:39 <nirik> abadger1999: cool. any gotchas? 18:08:49 <nirik> lmacken: sounds good. let me know if I can assist any with it. 18:08:59 <abadger1999> easy to learn so it's pretty nice. 18:09:24 <lmacken> nirik: I'm not sure how to go from fedora-web git -> production 18:09:31 <abadger1999> I'm going to see if we an get this ready in time for post-F18 elections but I think we may just miss htat deadline. 18:09:49 <nirik> lmacken: it should generate on bapp02... then proxies pull/rsync the content from there. 18:09:51 <abadger1999> The todo list is pretty long and includes migrating the old data over. 18:10:01 <nirik> but it will need config changes to redirect it right I think. 18:10:16 <nirik> abadger1999: ok. 18:10:37 <lmacken> nirik: ah, yep. so it'll require a change request after all. 18:10:45 <nirik> probibly so. 18:11:10 <nirik> ok, any other app news? 18:11:12 <threebean> datanommer is on the way.. just gotta talk it over with ianweller this afternoon before we can start poking Infra. 18:11:32 <threebean> I'll need a DB for it.. and I'm not sure how to do that in our environment. 18:11:32 <nirik> cool. landing in staging then before too long? 18:11:44 <abadger1999> threebean: does that mean we can decommission the old fedoracommunity soon? Or is this just the bare bones? 18:11:57 <threebean> abadger1999: just bare bones/backend. 18:12:00 <abadger1999> k 18:12:03 * nirik would jump for joy to get rid of app07. ;( 18:12:05 <threebean> abadger1999: we'd still have to write front-end querying stuff. 18:12:51 <threebean> any leads on how to create a new db? or... after the meeting? 18:12:54 <smooge> abadger1999, anything I can help with the rewrite? testing, review? learning new pain 18:13:12 <nirik> threebean: I can assist with that. 18:13:18 <nirik> in stg it's all on db02.stg... 18:13:43 <abadger1999> smooge: If you want to -- I just forked ianweller's tree and started hacking: https://github.com/abadger/fedora-elections-flask 18:13:46 <threebean> nirik: cool, thanks. I'll need to do it again in a few weeks for tahrir/openbadges. 18:13:52 <abadger1999> smooge: There's a TODO file in there. 18:14:09 <smooge> ok thanks 18:14:43 <threebean> in other news, packages01.dev is up and running from a git repo for fchiulli. http://packages01.dev.fedoraproject.org/packages 18:15:23 <nirik> cool. 18:15:28 <abadger1999> smooge: Some self contained items would be: (code): write a conversion script for old data to the new data. (packaging): rpmify the new elections and the fas-flask package (html/designer): give the templates a fedora theme -- probably can base them off the current elections or raffle code. 18:17:19 <nirik> ok... any other apps/devel news? 18:17:22 <nirik> or shall we move on 18:17:53 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion 18:18:04 <nirik> so, busy as always... a few things to note: 18:18:17 <nirik> #info we have been seeing an odd httpd crash on app servers of late. 18:18:31 <nirik> it would be nice to track it down, but it's sporadic and hard to pinpoint. 18:19:15 <nirik> #info ongoing problem with log02 and it's host, sometimes requiring reboot. 18:19:40 <nirik> there's a bug on this one, had a bit of activity recently. 18:19:55 <nirik> #info skvidal has been working on cloud stuff 18:20:12 <nirik> We have a test euca cloud up and running... we have been poking around with the config and kicking the tires. 18:20:42 <nirik> I've been updating https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_private_cloud with use cases and some policy draft ideas. 18:21:05 <nirik> Any other sysadmin tasks or upcoming items folks would like to note? 18:21:08 <nirik> Oh, one more: 18:21:27 <nirik> #info will be announcing status.fedoraproject.org... I have a draft announcement in gobby, corrections/editing welcome 18:22:19 <nirik> #topic Private Cloud policies and status 18:22:38 <nirik> mentioned this... there is a discussion on list about policies and such... do chime in. 18:23:16 <nirik> #topic Upcoming items 18:23:27 <threebean> Hmm, a question -> I mentioned status.fp.o in a blog post.. should I have waited until after the announcement? 18:23:37 <nirik> threebean: naw, thats fine. 18:23:41 <threebean> cool 18:24:36 <nirik> upcoming I have: 18:24:46 <nirik> #info 2012-08-14 to 2012-09-04 F18 Alpha Freeze 18:24:46 <nirik> #info 2012-08-31 end of 2nd quarter 18:24:47 <nirik> #info 2012-09-04 F18 Alpha release. 18:24:47 <nirik> #info 2012-09-10 to 2012-09-24 Skvidal is out 18:24:47 <nirik> #info 2012-09-25 to 2012-10-09 F18 Beta Freeze 18:24:47 <nirik> #info 2012-10-09 F18 Beta release 18:24:49 <nirik> #info 2012-10-23 to 2012-11-13 F18 Final Freeze 18:24:51 <nirik> #info 2012-11-13 F18 release. 18:24:53 <nirik> #info 2012-11-26 to 2012-11-29 Security FAD 18:24:55 <nirik> #info 2012-11-30 end of 3nd quarter 18:25:01 <nirik> Note that we likely will slip another week, so everything moves out a week due to that. 18:25:04 <nirik> and we might slip more. 18:25:12 <nirik> so, not sure what we want to do about the Security FAD. 18:25:23 <nirik> I guess wait and see a bit if we need to reschedule. 18:25:45 <threebean> oh wow.. I haven't been following the go/no-go meetings. Is it something that more hands would help with? 18:25:48 <nirik> if we do need to change it, probibly next would be just having folks come in a few days early before fudcon 18:26:18 <nirik> well, it's mostly been installer issues. :( But things are looking better than they have been today... 18:26:41 <abadger1999> skvidal on vacation might be good to add. 18:26:41 <threebean> mm, ok. 18:26:49 <nirik> abadger1999: it's there. ;) 18:27:08 <threebean> nirik: oh, I think lmacken's out next week too. 18:27:14 <nirik> Also, I might be doing some traveling mid sept as well... but I should be working from the road mostly, so it shouldn't really affect too much 18:27:19 <abadger1999> oh I guess my brain didn't recognize him with a capital "S" :-) 18:27:30 <lmacken> threebean: indeed 18:27:31 <nirik> threebean: oh yeah. 18:27:41 <lmacken> my hotel is 10 minutes away from nirik :P 18:27:50 <nirik> yep. ;) 18:28:09 <threebean> :) 18:28:34 <nirik> so, if we slip just one more week... the fad will be the week after release and should be fine. If we slip more than 1 week, it will be release week, or pre release, which will not be 18:29:10 <nirik> so, we will see I guess. 18:29:12 <smooge> nirik, well if we slip the security fad any more we might as well do it at Fudcon 18:29:26 <nirik> smooge: yeah, that was my thought too... although before fudcon. 18:29:40 <smooge> well all funds for 4th quarter pretty much go to fudcon 18:29:40 <nirik> have everyone come in 2-3 days before. 18:30:00 <nirik> yeah. 18:30:22 <smooge> but doing it before hand at fudcon might still be possible. 18:30:36 <nirik> I think we might be able to get fad money to help for those days... 18:30:40 <nirik> but we can see. 18:31:13 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 18:31:19 <nirik> ok, anyone have items for open floor? 18:31:38 <nirik> oh, there was a request to change our wiki url scheme... 18:31:49 <threebean> -1 18:31:54 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3456 18:32:19 <threebean> er.. just seems unnecessary and would introduce issues. 18:32:25 <nirik> yeah, if we were setting it up from scratch I wouldn't care... but it doesn't seem to have any gain for the redirect and hassle pain. 18:33:29 <nirik> anything else from anyone? 18:33:30 <smooge> actually I would say it isn't our call. 18:33:37 <nirik> smooge: oh? 18:34:09 <smooge> the webteams and websites would seem a better place to say they would like it or not. 18:34:35 <nirik> yeah, although they are kinda a subset of us... 18:34:42 <smooge> oh I thought they were different 18:34:43 <nirik> I just don't see the gain. 18:34:54 <smooge> I don't either.. it would also break probably a lot of authentication 18:35:19 <smooge> or maybe not.. 18:35:40 <nirik> we would have to maintain redirects. 18:35:48 <nirik> and really, I dont want anymore of those... 18:36:43 <nirik> ok, let me light the fuse then... 18:36:52 <nirik> Thanks for coming everyone! 18:37:03 <nirik> #endmeeting
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