On 24/09/11 19:39, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 11:07, Tristan Santore > <tristan.santore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On 24/09/11 15:43, Mike McGrath wrote: >>> On Fri, 23 Sep 2011, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >> How about hosting zarafa elsewhere ? In a sane legal zone like the EU! > > The EU's laws are no better or worse than the US laws on this. Mainly > because local laws trump EU laws unless you want to spend millions on > defense lawyers and time. > >> As long as Fedora doesn't itself host this, its not taking part in >> contributory infringement, I would think. > > You really need to go spend some time with (practicing) lawyers in the > EU. Most of the people who say otherwise are usually non-practicing or > arm-chair lawyers. > > > > > Local laws do not trump EU law, if these have been ratified, so you are factually incorrect. And we do not have software patents, period. No ifs, no buts. You can have code part of a patent, but only associated with a hardware product, the hardware product is patented. And Kevin's explanation is an adequate one, it does not fit our needs. The problem is, maybe there should be something else, before something else is trashed. Further, this was never really publicised, it was in "testing", which explains why Mike is the only user, which I find a bit annoying, mainly because we have been at this for a while now. Also, I should state, that the frustration at "the z-push thing/contributory infringement, is the most annoying thing ever, it makes me and others, who are based in the EU, frustrated and mad. Personally I think businesses in FOSS should relocate out of the US, period. I was not having a go personally at anyone here. Anyway, so what else are we going to deploy, I have been waiting more than 2 year for some fancy ical stuff for our meetings, and appointments, etc., making us all more effective at what we are trying to do. Maybe we need something completely foss, not only for us, but for Red Hat internally, maybe some other distributions and foss projects, too. Possibly we should suggest something to other groups, and see if people from multiple groups could be pooled together to start something. Just an idea. Regards, Tristan -- Tristan Santore BSc MBCS TS4523-RIPE Network and Infrastructure Operations InterNexusConnect Mobile +44-78-55069812 Tristan.Santore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Former Thawte Notary (Please note: Thawte has closed its WoT programme down, and I am therefore no longer able to accredit trust) For Fedora related issues, please email me at: TSantore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ infrastructure mailing list infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/infrastructure
