On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:05 PM, David Nalley <david@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Thu, 18 Mar 2010, Nigel Jones wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Nick Bebout <nick@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> > What is everyone's thoughts about us sponsoring a Freenode server? Their >>> > general requirements are noted on http://freenode.net/hosting_ircd.shtml >>> > and I've discussed them with mmcgrath and he has said they seem doable, >>> > probably on telia1 or osuosl1. Basically we'd be providing them a xen, >>> > guest with about 1.5 or 2 GB ram, client servers should expect to sustain >>> > around 1Mbps of traffic, with much higher peaks. Total usage for client >>> > servers is usually around 320 gigabytes per month, while hidden hubs are >>> > generally much lower overall. >>> > >>> > We'd be giving them at least a user account on it, they prefer sudo if >>> > possible. They handle the day-to-day administering of the ircd, either >>> > scp'ing new binaries or compiling the ircd on the server itself, and >>> > copying new config files to there. >>> > >>> > I've talked to their sponsor liaison and they seem to be interested. Mike >>> > and I wanted to discuss it on here before I send the actual "proposal" >>> > email. >>> > >>> > I think it would be a good idea, especially since we use them so much for >>> > our IRC channels, it'd be nice to contribute a server back to the network. >>> Sorry but I'd put a -1 on this. >>> >>> There was a discussion/proposal (via Trac) from mdomsch there and I >>> know I put some reasons down. Heres a few though: >>> >>> * Freenode already have an osuosl server iirc >>> * Have we discussed this w/ our sponsors, they've been giving us >>> space/bandwidth to do stuff that would benefit Fedora Project >>> directly. >>> * Freenode has had a lot of DDOS attacks recently, putting a sponsor >>> under the potential for such strain is silly. >>> >>> I'd also say that the Board should have some say on this. >>> >> >> I think the good citizen thing to do for freenode would be to host a >> server. We do use them extensively, giving back is the right thing to do. >> But the above points do give me serious pause and are good points. What >> do other think? >> >> -Mike > > So I think it would be good for us to support them, but not sure if > giving them a server is the only thing (or even the best thing) we can > do for them. Could we for instance see if CommArch would be interested > in supporting them financially? The negative points are pretty > weighty. > I wonder if we could do a fund-raiser for them. While FreeNode is no way an efnet.. a xen root-escape would not be something I would put past some of its denizens. The other issues listed are also a bit of a deal. I wonder if we have enough spare hardware (as in old not getting renewed for support) to set them up a server somewhere with spares to fix up over time. -- Stephen J Smoogen. Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp. Or what's a heaven for? -- Robert Browning _______________________________________________ infrastructure mailing list infrastructure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/infrastructure
