19:59 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Role Call. Who's here? 19:59 * ricky 20:00 < themayor> nope were good 20:00 < themayor> thanks guys 20:00 * SmootherFrOgZ here 20:00 * wcattey makes his way to the exit as the meeting changes. 20:01 < smooge> here 20:01 < mmcgrath> Ok, lets get started 20:01 -!- notting [n=notting@redhat/notting] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:02 < fugolini> Just a small comunication for FAmSCo members, the meeting is going to be held in #fedora-ambassadors 20:02 < mmcgrath> First we'll hit up the release tickets. 20:02 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Release Tickets 20:02 < mmcgrath> .tiny https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/9 20:02 < zodbot> mmcgrath: http://tinyurl.com/5onzad 20:02 < mmcgrath> .ticket 932 20:02 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #932 (Preview website) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/932 20:02 < mmcgrath> ricky: if you've got that would you mind accepting the ticket? 20:03 < ricky> Sure 20:03 < mmcgrath> solid 20:03 < mmcgrath> ricky: are there any blockers with that or anything you need from us? 20:03 -!- wcattey [n=devnull@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has left #fedora-meeting ["Leaving"] 20:03 < ricky> Nope, I'll just make sure to confirm the torrent URLs early, and we'll be using the current get-fedora for the preview 20:04 < mmcgrath> Will you be doing the actual flip on release day or should someone else? If not you please note it in the ticket. 20:04 < mmcgrath> <nod> feel free to cc f13 on there and have him give the names to you. 20:04 < mmcgrath> next ticket 20:04 < mmcgrath> .ticket 933 20:04 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #933 (Preview release - Verify mirror space) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/933 20:04 < mmcgrath> I'm going to do this, I'm pretty sure we're find 20:04 < mmcgrath> err fine 20:04 < mmcgrath> .ticket 935 20:04 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #935 (Preview - Mirror Coordination) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/935 20:04 < mdomsch_> hi 20:04 < mmcgrath> f13: mdomsch_: what do we do for preview releases there? Anything special? do we even need to tell them about it or do we just let it happen? 20:04 -!- AndreasR [n=zeus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has left #fedora-meeting ["Verlassend"] 20:05 -!- moixs [n=chatzill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has left #fedora-meeting [] 20:05 < mdomsch_> f13 usually sends an email before posting the bits 20:05 < mdomsch_> when he knows they're close to being ready 20:05 < mdomsch_> that's all 20:06 < mmcgrath> kew, I figured its simple 20:06 < mmcgrath> .ticket 936 20:06 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #936 (Preview release - Mirror bit verification) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/936 20:06 < mmcgrath> SmootherFrOgZ: you're on this one. We've never really done this before (which is bad) but you're the man now, care to let us know what you're going to do? :) 20:07 < SmootherFrOgZ> no pb ;) 20:07 < mmcgrath> part of it is making sure the permissions are right and syncing, what else is there? 20:08 < SmootherFrOgZ> i think that's it 20:08 < mdomsch_> and that jesse lands the content in the right place :-) 20:08 < mmcgrath> k, I suppose we could -V the packages too if you were real hard core about it. 20:08 < SmootherFrOgZ> correct 20:08 < mmcgrath> mdomsch_: yeah, good point :) 20:09 < mmcgrath> .ticket 937 20:09 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #937 (Preview - Infrastructure Change Freeze) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/937 20:09 < mmcgrath> I've got this one, everything's been fine. 20:09 < mmcgrath> It is interesting to note how much more quiet nagios is when we're in a change freeze :) 20:09 * dgilmore is here 20:09 * mmcgrath hopes he doesn't jynx it 20:09 < mmcgrath> and 20:09 < mmcgrath> .ticket 934 20:09 * nirik wonders if this release will be the first with no RHIT interaction needed... or do they still need to flip something? 20:09 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: yo 20:09 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #934 (Preview Release Ticket) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/934 20:10 -!- sternecg [n=sternecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:10 -!- buggbot [n=supybot@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 20:10 < mmcgrath> nirik: this could be the first one, I can't remember if they were involved for F9 or not... 20:10 < mdomsch_> nirik, they do not 20:10 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: i think alot of nagios noise is people not scheduling downtime when doing work 20:10 < mdomsch_> mmcgrath, nope, not since the composes happen in PHX now 20:10 < mmcgrath> kew 20:11 * nirik nods. Cool. 20:11 < mmcgrath> so that release ticket is mostly just a tracker. it'll be closed when the release is out. 20:11 < mmcgrath> So thats really it with the preview release, any one have any questions or concerns? Speak your mind. 20:11 < dgilmore> mmcgrath, nirik: i think they were not involved in F-9 20:11 * nirik thought they were, but could be misremembering. 20:11 < mmcgrath> my brain doesn't go back that far. 20:11 < ricky> What is the status of myfedora with regard to the final release? 20:12 * ricky remembers seeing a blog post about it 20:12 < mmcgrath> ricky: wait till the floor is open :-P 20:12 < mmcgrath> which is pretty soon 20:12 < ricky> Oop, sorry 20:12 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Tickets 20:12 < mmcgrath> .tiny https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&component=Hosted+Projects&order=id&desc=1 20:12 < zodbot> mmcgrath: http://tinyurl.com/5g3oxm 20:12 < mmcgrath> err not that 20:12 < mmcgrath> .tiny https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&group=milestone&keywords=%7EMeeting&order=priority 20:12 < zodbot> mmcgrath: http://tinyurl.com/2hyyz6 20:12 < mmcgrath> that one ^^ 20:12 < mmcgrath> only one 20:12 < mmcgrath> .ticket 740 20:13 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #740 (Loaning out system time to OLPC participants) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/740 20:13 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: heard any news on this? I haven't. I assume its a pretty low priority 20:13 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: not heard anything more 20:13 < mmcgrath> k 20:13 < mmcgrath> in that case 20:13 < mmcgrath> I've just got a couple of items this week. 20:14 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- oVirt 20:14 < mmcgrath> Nothing real new with the ovirt looks this week, I also just started looking at enomalism. 20:14 < mmcgrath> They did release 0.84 (ovirt) and I've downloaded that. 20:14 < mmcgrath> So nothing real new. 20:14 < f13> sorry I'm late. 20:14 < mmcgrath> f13: no worries 20:14 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Backup2 20:15 < mmcgrath> I'm working to get our off-site backup solution in order. It will be at ibiblio. It will help me sleep better at night. 20:15 < mmcgrath> Its basically going to be a combination lvm + snapshot + nightly rsync type setup. 20:15 < ricky> Will it be everything or just a specific subset? 20:16 < mmcgrath> ricky: specific subset. Basically everything we'd need to get going again if the worst happened. 20:16 < mmcgrath> so databases, puppet configs, cvs, lookaside cache, etc. 20:16 < mdomsch_> hosted 20:16 < mmcgrath> it will likely be on an encrypted filesystem of some kind. 20:16 < mmcgrath> mdomsch_: actually hosted is already setup. We've got replicated data from hosted1 -> hosted2 in VA, and an offsite backup in PHX. 20:16 < ricky> Cool, that sounds really interesting 20:16 < mdomsch_> nice 20:16 -!- rdieter is now known as rdieter_away 20:16 < mmcgrath> yeah, we did hosted right :) 20:17 < mmcgrath> its not live replication but it is hourly IIRC. 20:17 -!- stickster is now known as stickster_afk 20:17 < mmcgrath> I've thought about doing live replication but haven't sat down and done it yet. 20:17 < mmcgrath> anywho, any questions about backup2? 20:17 < mmcgrath> kew 20:17 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Open Floor 20:17 < mmcgrath> ricky: I believe you had something? :) 20:17 -!- rkastl__ [n=rkastl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:18 < ricky> 20:11:55 < ricky> What is the status of myfedora with regard to the final release? 20:18 < ricky> 20:12:05 * ricky remembers seeing a blog post about it 20:18 < mmcgrath> ahh yes 20:18 < mmcgrath> I've not heard any status reports about myfedora 20:18 < mmcgrath> J5: lmacken: either of you two around? 20:18 < mmcgrath> can you give us a status report of my fedora or perhaps email a larger status report to the list? 20:19 * mmcgrath assumes they're absent right now. 20:19 < mmcgrath> ricky: so I'd say they have a status, but not sure what it is. I'll drop an email to see whats up 20:19 < ricky> Cool 20:19 < mmcgrath> Anyone have anything else they'd like to duscuss? 20:19 < mmcgrath> err discuss even? 20:20 < mmcgrath> mdomsch_: the ubuntu guys are pretty sweet on your mirrormanager stuff. 20:20 < mdomsch_> yeah? 20:20 < mdomsch_> pointers? 20:20 < f13> I'm getting quite close to being able to release the .newkey stuff for F8 and F9 Everything trees 20:20 * ricky wonders if nirik wanted to ask about ticket 651 20:20 < ricky> .ticket 651 20:20 < f13> it'll baloon up our mirror space for a period of time, until we prune the non .newkey content 20:20 < zodbot> ricky: #651 (system account for tier2 ppc32/x86_64 hosting for cvsextras) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/651 20:20 < mdomsch_> f13, for Preview you're not changing the repo=rawhide parts of fedora-release, right? 20:20 < nirik> oh yeah... any news there? 20:20 < mdomsch_> but you will for RC? 20:21 < f13> however I'm not sure of the timing of releaseing this stuff, given the need to stage Preview and the F0 Final. 20:21 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/10/30/%23ubuntu-website.txt <-- towards the bottom. 20:21 < f13> mdomsch_: that's correct. post-preview is when I'll make all the bits look like the real thing, including the repo change. 20:21 < mmcgrath> f13: when will that happen? how much of a baloon are we talking about? 20:22 < f13> mmcgrath: I'm not sure when it'll happen. I'm more inclined to wait until after F10 goes out at this point, just because of all the churn that's upcoming. 20:22 * dgilmore would like to see ticket 651 done 20:22 -!- fbijlsma [n=fbijlsma@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] has joined #fedora-meeting 20:22 < mmcgrath> f13: k 20:22 < f13> it'll double the size of the Everything/ tree for 8 and 9 20:23 < mmcgrath> f13: mind opening a ticket for mirrorspace verification on that? 20:23 < mmcgrath> ricky: one sec on 651 20:24 * mdomsch_ gets evil thought 20:24 < mdomsch_> create a new hidden category "Ubuntu" in MM 20:24 < mdomsch_> and pretend they're at /pub/Ubuntu/ 20:24 < mdomsch_> and start serving download.fedoraproject.org/pub/Ubuntu/... 20:25 < f13> mmcgrath: I'll do that before I put any bits in place. 20:25 < mmcgrath> mdomsch_: heh 20:25 < mmcgrath> f13: solid 20:25 < mmcgrath> Ok, 20:25 < ricky> Hehe 20:25 < mmcgrath> ricky: what about 651? 20:25 < ricky> I think nirik was just asking about that 20:25 < nirik> yeah, whats the status? 20:26 < mmcgrath> loupgaroublond: you around? 20:26 * mmcgrath thinks loupgaroublond had this done but not merged to a recent tree. 20:26 < mmcgrath> we talked about it a bit ago but I don't remember its status 20:27 < loupgaroublond> mmcgrath, yes? 20:27 < loupgaroublond> mmcgrath, done what? 20:27 < mmcgrath> .ticket 651 20:27 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #651 (system account for tier2 ppc32/x86_64 hosting for cvsextras) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/651 20:28 < loupgaroublond> is this the 'thirdparty' system deal? 20:29 < mmcgrath> yeah 20:29 < loupgaroublond> ok, iirc, we're using the privacy security features to implement this... 20:29 < loupgaroublond> in the config, a certain group is assigned 'thirdparty' and any third party system should have a login account that is a member of that group 20:30 < loupgaroublond> when pulling stuff from FAS, authenticate with that user, and not with an administrator user 20:30 < loupgaroublond> the privacy stuff, when sending out the userlists, should call the filter_private() method, which will drop the password bits, and possibly something else, though i can't remember offhand 20:31 < mmcgrath> loupgaroublond: and this is in version 0.8.4.5 or in HEAD or not yet completed? 20:31 < loupgaroublond> it's completed, though i'm not sure what's in version 0.8.4.5, so you'll have to check the git log for that 20:32 < mmcgrath> <nod> 20:32 < J5> mmcgrath: whats up? 20:32 < mmcgrath> ricky: while we're getting the next release ready lets make sure to check on that. Give it a test, etc. Then on deployment we'll let nirik and dgilmore know so they can do testing. 20:32 < mmcgrath> J5: ono momento 20:32 < mmcgrath> any other questions on ticket 651? 20:32 < ricky> mmcgrath: Sure 20:33 -!- che_ [n=rkastl@redhat/che] has quit Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) 20:33 * ricky has kvm machines setup now that'd be perfect :-) 20:33 < ricky> **virtual machines 20:33 < mmcgrath> J5: we were wondering if you could give us a status report on MyFedora? 20:33 < nirik> and it just gets ssh keys and logins, no passwords, right? 20:33 < ricky> nirik: Yup, that's the plan 20:34 < J5> ok, we are doing cleanups right now, the whole stack is packaged though the myfedora package needs some more cleanups. 20:34 < ricky> Also no real name, etc. info for people with privacy on 20:34 < nirik> great. Let me know when to test. 20:34 -!- sternecg [n=sternecg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has quit "Leaving" 20:34 < J5> we have a test instance up at https://publictest16.fedoraproject.org/community 20:35 < mmcgrath> Do we have an estimated date on when it will be ready for deployment? 20:35 < ricky> Will it run on the same boxes as our other TG apps? 20:35 < J5> you can push updates from the updates tool, I show controls in the builds tool but haven't hooked that up yet 20:35 < J5> should be ready for deployment with F10 release 20:35 < dgilmore> ricky: just want public keys and usernames 20:36 < loupgaroublond> mmcgrath, the git commit's SHA is 3067a96d6cc0260c8c8bf179b93471fcb185475a 20:36 < SmootherFrOgZ> great 20:36 < mmcgrath> loupgaroublond: thank you. 20:36 < ricky> dgilmore: Hm, OK - we might have to make make sure fasClient works with just that info, then 20:36 < mmcgrath> ricky: and group info 20:36 < loupgaroublond> mmcgrath, and that appears to be master 20:36 < J5> We really just need to clean up some of the screen in terms of css and have better error handling 20:37 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: ahh yeah we might need that also 20:37 < dgilmore> ricky: ill just as gladly not have Real Names 20:37 * nirik nods at dgilmore. 20:38 < J5> just a warning to the rest of the infrastructure, I'm going to be sending in a bunch of patches during the F11 time frame as we had to drop a bunch of features because the API wasn't exposed or was exposed in a way we couldn't use very easily 20:39 < J5> mmcgrath: I have a couple of questions about deployment 20:39 < mmcgrath> J5: sure, shoot them my way. 20:39 < mmcgrath> J5: do we have any estimated date on when it will be ready for deployment? 20:39 < dgilmore> whats the url for the test instance? 20:39 < ricky> dgilmore: https://publictest16.fedoraproject.org/community 20:40 < J5> where do you want to mount myfedora? If it is under the admin.fd.o we can link off to other infrastructure bits better 20:40 < J5> two more weeks I would say 20:40 < mmcgrath> J5: doesn't matter to me, we can do admin.fedoraproject.org/myfedora/ or myfedora.fedoraproject.org/ 20:40 < ricky> That sounds good - depending on how auth is done, maybe they can share auth cookies 20:40 < J5> admin.fedoraproject.org/community 20:40 < mmcgrath> we have a *.fedoraproject.org certificate now so secure sites are cheap. 20:40 < J5> ricky: I'm already using the same cookies 20:40 < mmcgrath> yeah, wherever you guys want, doesn't matter to me. 20:41 < ricky> Nice 20:41 < J5> mmcgrath: I would like community.fedoraproject.org but that puts us in a different domain 20:42 < dgilmore> J5: have you guys tested in konqueror? 20:42 < mmcgrath> <nod> 20:42 < J5> any reason why cookies are not attached to fedoraproject.org or is that a browser thing? 20:42 < ricky> There are pages under fedoraproject.org which we couldn't 100% trust the content of 20:42 < J5> dgilmore: mostly firefox but I ran it on safari and it looked and worked fine 20:42 < ricky> Like the old wiki allowed arbitrary HTML 20:42 -!- fbijlsma [n=fbijlsma@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] has quit "Leaving" 20:42 < J5> dgilmore: would be good if we got more testing 20:43 < ricky> And then there's people.fedoraproject.org 20:43 < dgilmore> J5: i generally use konq and it seemed busted 20:43 < dgilmore> J5 i had to hit close nearly 10 times before hiting the front page 20:43 < J5> dgilmore: file bugs, some parts are busted in general that we need to clean up 20:44 < dgilmore> J5: it kept showing planet feeds on top of everything else 20:44 < dgilmore> J5: where do bugs get files 20:44 < dgilmore> filed 20:44 < dgilmore> J5: blog about it please 20:44 < J5> myfedora.fedorahosted.org 20:44 < J5> dgilmore: I did, a couple of days ago 20:44 < dgilmore> J5: i missed it 20:44 < J5> k 20:44 < dgilmore> be louder :) 20:45 < J5> NEXT TIME I WILL POST IN ALL CAPS :) 20:45 < ricky> More <blink>s in the entry 20:45 < mmcgrath> heh 20:45 < mmcgrath> Ok ok, I'm thinking we can close the meeting a little early. Anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss? 20:45 < dgilmore> J5: this could be something cool. but It needs some noise :) 20:45 < J5> ya 20:45 * dgilmore got a G1 this afternoon 20:46 < J5> mmcgrath: so I was told you use mod_ssl not mod_nss - how do you want me to configure myfedora's package? 20:46 < dgilmore> J5: AFAIK we use mod_ssl everywhere not mod_nss 20:47 < dgilmore> i know koji uses mod_ssl 20:47 < mmcgrath> J5: actually you probably won't need to worry about that, the app servers don't exist at our encryption layer. 20:48 < J5> so take out the ssl apache configs? 20:48 < mmcgrath> J5: leave it on the publictest boxes, but when it gets deployed on app[1-6] take it out, the proxy servers do our ssl encryption 20:49 < J5> my biggest problem with that is if a user installs it without ssl they could potentially send fedora passwords over the wire 20:49 < mmcgrath> if a user installs what exactly? 20:49 < J5> the myfedora rpm 20:49 < mmcgrath> and thats the webapp? 20:49 < J5> yes 20:50 < mmcgrath> ah, typically that stuff is left up to the admins. 20:51 < J5> ok, I just copied what func did 20:51 -!- DemonJester [n=DemonJes@fedora/DemonJester] has quit "leaving" 20:51 < J5> so you don't want me installing the myfedora.conf in /etc/httd/conf.d? 20:51 < mmcgrath> <nod> with Func we don't pass it through the proxy layer, its not quite a traditional webapp. 20:52 < mmcgrath> J5: thats up to you but whatever you do with it we'll be changing it and controlling it via puppet anyway :) 20:52 < mmcgrath> being a config file and all 20:52 < J5> ok cool 20:53 < mmcgrath> Ok, well we'll look forward to that in the comming weeks. 20:53 < mmcgrath> Anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss? If not we'll close the meeting in 30 20:54 < mmcgrath> 10 20:54 < J5> hey guys, test it out and blog about it 20:54 < mmcgrath> J5: sure thing 20:54 < J5> and file bugs :) 20:54 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Meeting closed
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