16:00 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Who's Here? 16:00 * ricky 16:00 * ianweller 16:00 * SmootherFrOgZ 16:00 < G> baaa 16:01 * abadger1999 16:01 < mmcgrath> Ok, lets get cracking 16:02 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Tickets 16:02 < mmcgrath> .tiny https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&group=milestone&keywords=%7EMeeting&order=priority 16:02 < zodbot> mmcgrath: http://tinyurl.com/2hyyz6 16:02 * skvidal is 16:02 * dgilmore 16:02 < mmcgrath> .ticket 395 16:02 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #395 (Audio Streaming of Fedora Board Conference Calls) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/395 16:02 < mmcgrath> jcollie: around? 16:03 < mmcgrath> ok, we'll skip that for now 16:03 < mmcgrath> .ticket 446 16:03 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #446 (Possibility to add external links on spins page) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/446 16:03 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: ping ^^ 16:04 -!- balor [n=balor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has joined #fedora-meeting 16:04 < mmcgrath> wow, going to be a short meeting I suspect. 16:04 < ricky> Heh. 16:04 < mmcgrath> .ticket 547 16:04 < SmootherFrOgZ> ^^ 16:04 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #547 (Koji DB Server as postgres 8.3) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/547 16:04 < mmcgrath> I've been working on testing the imports and things. 16:05 < SmootherFrOgZ> do you want help on this part ? 16:05 < mmcgrath> So far so good. When I first started testing I had a ext3 abort on me but haven't seen that happen since. And have done many more restores with it 16:05 < mmcgrath> SmootherFrOgZ: thanks but I think we're all set. I'm just waiting to hear back from f13 about the exact outage times. 16:05 < mmcgrath> It will take 8-10 hours to import 16:05 < SmootherFrOgZ> k 16:06 < mmcgrath> It took 5 fewer hours to import to 8.3 then to 8.1 of the same hardware configuration. 16:06 < mmcgrath> so we may see significant performance gain with koji. 16:06 < mmcgrath> .ticket 576 16:06 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #576 (Infrastructure Contact Information) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/576 16:06 < G> no update here 16:07 < mmcgrath> G: you given any further thought to this? I've been testing some sshfs and encfs combo's with success. its an option worth looking at 16:07 < mmcgrath> <nod> 16:07 < mmcgrath> next ticket 16:07 < G> yeah, it's been playing at the back of my mind :) 16:07 < mmcgrath> .ticket 448 16:07 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #448 (Hosting request for fedora-quotes) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/448 16:07 * mmcgrath swore this was all fixed 16:07 < mmcgrath> I'll comment and close it. 16:07 < ricky> Thanks 16:07 * ricky should have done that last week 16:08 < mmcgrath> Ok, thats that. 16:08 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Torrent1 16:08 < mmcgrath> skvidal: ^^ 16:08 < mmcgrath> whats the torrent1 plan? its been up and running for a while. 16:09 < skvidal> it has been 16:09 < skvidal> yay 16:09 < mmcgrath> yeah 16:09 < skvidal> we can give it a shot for alpha 16:09 < skvidal> we'll see how much whatever-the-hell-xen-does 16:09 < skvidal> makes it blow up 16:09 < skvidal> :) 16:09 < mmcgrath> Thats till in a few weeks right? 16:09 < mmcgrath> f13: ping 16:10 < mmcgrath> notting: ping 16:10 < G> yeah, begining of August iirc 16:10 < notting> mmcgrath: yes? 16:10 < mmcgrath> do either of you know how much room is needed for the alpha release? 16:10 < skvidal> mmcgrath: there's 244G free on torrent1 16:10 < skvidal> we should be fine :) 16:10 < notting> if you budget the amount that was needed for f9, you can't go wrong 16:10 -!- sdziallas [n=sebastia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has joined #fedora-meeting 16:10 * nirik notes that the Xfce spin should be done... but it's not up anywhere yet... I think f13 was going to see about trying to put it on torrent1. 16:10 < dgilmore> notting: +10% 16:10 < mmcgrath> skvidal: there's also about that much on the primary mirror. 16:11 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: can i put sparc there 16:11 < mmcgrath> no sparc for you! 16:11 < skvidal> dgilmore: hush 16:11 < skvidal> mmcgrath: nod 16:11 < mmcgrath> I'll make a ticket and check it out 16:11 < skvidal> mmcgrath: only sad thing 16:11 < skvidal> archive.fp.o has 7.7G free :( 16:11 < dgilmore> ouch 16:11 < skvidal> yah 16:12 < skvidal> not sure what we should do there 16:12 < G> yeah, that came up on nagios when I added it 16:12 < mmcgrath> skvidal: hopefully the HP box will be fixed by then. 16:13 < mmcgrath> I've purchased the warranty, its not gone through yet though. 16:13 < skvidal> nod 16:13 < mmcgrath> it has multiple T of storage available. 16:13 < skvidal> okay 16:13 < skvidal> yay for multiple T 16:13 < mmcgrath> skvidal: any other concerns with torrent1? 16:14 < skvidal> other than the ongoing disaster that is sb1? 16:14 < skvidal> no 16:14 < ricky> *cough*better than sb3*cough* 16:14 < mmcgrath> heh 16:14 < mmcgrath> ok, moving on 16:14 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Outage next week 16:15 < G> heh 16:15 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: power it all off :) 16:15 < ricky> Innage 16:15 < mmcgrath> I would have liked to do this tonight or tomorrow but I actually won't be around much this weekend so that seemed bad. 16:15 < mmcgrath> heh 16:15 < dgilmore> i assume this is to migrate to db3? 16:15 < mmcgrath> So here's whats going to happen. Hopefully monday night. 16:15 < ricky> And db1 at the same time 16:15 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: yeah, and the db1 migration. 16:15 < G> just as long as the voting app doesn't go down :) 16:15 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: lots of people will be absent next week 16:16 < ricky> It shouldn't 16:16 < dgilmore> fedora has a big presence at OLS 16:16 < G> (esp as we are in the middle of the FESCo elections) 16:16 < mmcgrath> .ticket 705 16:16 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #705 (DB upgrade (db1 db2)) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/705 16:16 < mmcgrath> G: it should be ok. 16:16 < mmcgrath> the longest outage will be koji, for around 10 hours. 16:16 < mmcgrath> That doesn't include much buffer for error. If something happens after hour 1, we're calling off the outage and doing it another time. 16:16 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: do we have postgresql-8.3 built? 16:16 < mmcgrath> The shorter outages are in smolt and mediawiki. 16:16 < G> dgilmore: yep 16:17 < mmcgrath> I'm hoping less then an hour. I'll be testing though. 16:17 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: yeah, its already on db3 and I've imported to it twice with success. 16:17 < mmcgrath> Just shy of 9 hours. 16:17 < dgilmore> then you need to analyze it 16:17 < dgilmore> but that can be done under load 16:17 < abadger1999> dgilmore: Yep. I've been tracking the F-9 builds and rebuilding for EL-5. 16:17 < dgilmore> abadger1999: :) 16:17 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: we need to analyze _after_ a fresh import? 16:17 < mmcgrath> do the pgsql admins drink a lot or just hate operations people and... logic? 16:18 < abadger1999> I think so. 16:18 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: its recommended 16:18 < abadger1999> Not a vacuum but analyse yes. 16:18 < ricky> Hehe 16:18 < mmcgrath> what a useless piece of crap. 16:18 < SmootherFrOgZ> haha 16:18 < mmcgrath> seriously, how could someone think thats ok? 16:18 < abadger1999> (analyze runs over your data as it sits on the disks and decides what query plans will be better) 16:18 < dgilmore> supposed to get the planers right 16:18 < mmcgrath> we don't have to deal with any of that bs in mysql, and never have. 16:18 < dgilmore> indeed 16:19 < mmcgrath> anyway, ok. I'll be analyzing the tables as well. 16:19 * mmcgrath needs to not think about that right now as it just makes him angry at the world. 16:19 < mmcgrath> skvidal: did you just take sb1 down? 16:19 < skvidal> no 16:19 < mmcgrath> .ping serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org 16:19 < zodbot> pong 16:19 < skvidal> but I've noticed it has issues everytime we talk about it 16:19 < mmcgrath> hrm 16:19 < abadger1999> It's shy. 16:19 < G> VPN most likely 16:19 < mmcgrath> yeah, that pong is a lie. I can't get to it 16:20 < skvidal> G: not from where I am 16:20 < skvidal> the pong is a lie 16:20 < mmcgrath> zodbot's pinging system is pretty weak. 16:20 < G> .ping 16:20 < zodbot> pong 16:20 < skvidal> hahah 16:20 < ricky> Blech. 16:20 < ricky> .ping aw243hy2a3i420r 16:20 < zodbot> pong 16:20 < mmcgrath> oh, its that kind of ping :) 16:20 < mmcgrath> heheheh 16:20 < dgilmore> .slap serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org 16:20 < mmcgrath> .list 16:20 < zodbot> mmcgrath: Admin, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Fedora, Internet, Koji, Later, Misc, Owner, Plugin, RSS, Seen, ShrinkUrl, String, Time, URL, Unix, UrbanDict, User, and Web 16:20 < mmcgrath> .list Internet 16:20 < zodbot> mmcgrath: dns, hexip, and whois 16:20 < ricky> .list Web 16:20 < zodbot> ricky: doctype, fetch, headers, netcraft, size, title, urlquote, and urlunquote 16:20 < ianweller> .help pi9nt 16:20 < zodbot> ianweller: Error: There is no command "pi9nt". 16:20 < ianweller> .help ping 16:20 < zodbot> ianweller: (ping takes no arguments) -- Checks to see if the bot is alive. 16:20 < mmcgrath> .list misc 16:20 < zodbot> mmcgrath: apropos, help, last, list, more, ping, source, tell, and version 16:20 < skvidal> so 16:20 < skvidal> sb1 is down 16:20 < ianweller> hahahahhahhahhhaahahaha 16:20 < ricky> .misc ping 16:20 < zodbot> pong 16:20 < mmcgrath> ahwell. 16:20 < ianweller> we've been trusting on that forever?! 16:20 < G> oh SPAM! 16:20 < skvidal> .spam 16:21 < ricky> Woooohoo, "Rapid" Reboot time! 16:21 < mmcgrath> Ok, so thats really all I have right now so I'll open the floor. 16:21 < skvidal> ricky: "rapid" is right 16:21 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Open Floor 16:21 < mmcgrath> who has things they'd like to discuss? 16:21 * skvidal suggests we poke sb1 in the eye 16:21 * ianweller suggests the spleen 16:21 < mmcgrath> skvidal: how is that possible? How did sb1 _just_ go down as we were talking about it? 16:21 < mmcgrath> did anyone even ssh to it or anything? 16:21 < skvidal> yep 16:21 * ricky couldn't get it 16:21 < skvidal> I ssh'd in and run 'df -h' 16:21 < ricky> **in 16:21 < mmcgrath> skvidal: and that killed it? 16:21 < skvidal> and then I logged out 16:21 < G> heh 16:21 < skvidal> apparently it did 16:21 < ianweller> skvidal: well don't do that then. ;) 16:22 < mmcgrath> thats amazing 16:22 < skvidal> yah 16:22 < skvidal> so 16:22 * dgilmore notes he will be more distracted than usual for the next 3 weeks 16:22 < ricky> :-) 16:22 < G> I've got nothing in particular, the proxy4->proxy1 rename went well 16:22 -!- SMParrish_mobile [i=20800ca5@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-4c55ac3e294ff48b] has left #fedora-meeting [] 16:22 < skvidal> do we have any hosts with enough ram and enough disk to take a torrent1 image? 16:22 < mmcgrath> G: yes it did, thank you for that. 16:22 * ricky will probably start obsessing over sb3 again.. soonish 16:22 < skvidal> ricky: are you scheduling the sb1 reboot now or should I? 16:22 < G> ummm lets see what else 16:22 < mmcgrath> skvidal: let me think about that. 16:23 < skvidal> mmcgrath: oh and they need to be not behind a firewall 16:23 < poelcat> is there an RFE ticket about email diff notifications from the wiki? 16:23 < ricky> skvidal: Sure, I'll get it 16:23 < mmcgrath> thats the real trick. 16:23 * poelcat couldn't find one 16:23 < skvidal> mmcgrath: option2 is what I suggested before 16:23 < mmcgrath> poelcat: I've not seen one. 16:23 < mmcgrath> skvidal: give option 2 a try. 16:23 * poelcat will create one 16:23 < skvidal> mmcgrath: we nuke sb1 from orbit and reinstall the fucker as SOLELY torrent 16:23 < skvidal> mmcgrath: okay, I'll see if I can do it tomorrow. 16:23 < G> poelcat: I'm sure I saw one 16:23 < mmcgrath> ianweller: do you know? 16:23 < skvidal> ricky: please do hit the reboot 16:24 < G> poelcat: the other things to note: 16:24 < ianweller> mmcgrath: no i do not know 16:24 < ricky> (Reboot initiated) 16:24 < poelcat> the more and more page watches I add the more painful clicking on the URL is getting :) 16:24 < ricky> skvidal: Ooh, let me know what luck you have with bare metal kickstarting 16:24 < ricky> (I've not had any luck with sb3 :-() 16:24 < poelcat> particuarly with all the feature page changes 16:24 < ianweller> G: weren't you looking into that? 16:24 < G> 1. Mediawiki only sends 1 notification per page per gap/whatever - i.e. you have to actually goto the page or view the diff to start getting new notifications 16:25 < skvidal> ricky: I shall, we did them before they can't be _that_ hard ;) 16:25 * dgilmore notes mediawiki sucks 16:25 < G> 2. As a result, the link to the diff is a dynamic one that'll always be from notifiededit-1 to current 16:25 < dgilmore> its only saving grace is a database backend 16:26 < poelcat> dgilmore: i was going to recommend moin, but they don't have a db ;-) 16:26 * nirik is happy with the rss feed of changes. 16:26 < G> poelcat: thats definately not how to get on my side :) 16:26 < ricky> skvidal: All I know is that the SOP (and a few other tries) didn't work - feel free to give it a kick or two :-) 16:27 < G> poelcat: so the problem is, Mediawiki's notification system is already fundamentally flawed in 1.11 :) 16:28 < mmcgrath> G: poelcat: mind taking that to the ticket? We can probably close the meeting quicker :) 16:28 < poelcat> mmcgrath: you got it 16:28 < mmcgrath> sweet 16:28 < ricky> I really wonder what they were thinking when they decided to put a link to the diff in the email 16:28 < mmcgrath> Ok, anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss? If not we can close the meeting in 30 16:28 < G> ricky: it saves on spam 16:29 < mmcgrath> 20 16:29 < ricky> Actually, I wonder how crazy wikipedia editors keep track of stuff like they do 16:29 < mmcgrath> 10 16:29 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Meeting End
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