15:00 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Meeting Who's here? 15:00 < mmcgrath> Who's here? 15:00 * iWolf is here 15:00 < ivazquez> Pong. 15:00 -!- petreu [n=peter@fedora/Standby] has quit Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer) 15:00 * dgilmore 15:00 < dgilmore> skvidal: that was for you 15:00 < skvidal> what 15:00 < skvidal> oh 15:01 * nirik is lurking in the spectator bleachers. 15:01 < skvidal> sorry 15:01 < skvidal> doing other stuff 15:01 < abadger1999> here 15:01 -!- caillon [n=caillon@xxxxxxxxxxxx] has left #fedora-meeting ["Leaving"] 15:02 * ricky 15:02 < yingbull> ping 15:02 < yingbull> pong, whichever 15:02 -!- notting [n=notting@redhat/notting] has joined #fedora-meeting 15:02 -!- MrBawb [i=abob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has joined #fedora-meeting 15:02 < ricky> Bad time for me to start eating a mango :( 15:03 < jcollie> ping 15:03 < mmcgrath> heh no worries. 15:03 * f13 15:03 < mmcgrath> alrighty, lets get started 15:03 -!- petreu| is now known as petreu 15:03 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Tickets 15:03 < mmcgrath> .tiny https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&group=milestone&keywords=%7EMeeting&order=priority 15:03 < zodbot> mmcgrath: http://tinyurl.com/2hyyz6 15:04 < mmcgrath> so first ticket 15:04 < mmcgrath> .ticket 347 15:04 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #347 (Set localtime on all our servers to UTC) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/347 15:04 -!- daMaestro [n=jon@fedora/damaestro] has joined #fedora-meeting 15:04 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: any word on that? 15:05 -!- wolfy [n=lonewolf@fedora/wolfy] has left #fedora-meeting ["If you don't know what procrastination is just look up the definition tomorrow."] 15:05 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: I was thinking we should be able to use puppet to push out the timezone files to each box 15:06 < dgilmore> and then reboot everything 15:06 < mmcgrath> <nod> that works for me, right now its not puppet managed but I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be. 15:06 < jcollie> i do that on my boxes at work, although not with puppet 15:06 < dgilmore> i think using puppet will make it much simpler to do that lagging in and running commands on each and every box 15:06 < mmcgrath> dgilmore: I remember you saying you'd be doing it during a trip or something, when was that scheduled for? 15:06 < dgilmore> mmcgrath: ill be in boston all next week 15:07 < mmcgrath> Should we schedule some outage for it? 15:07 < dgilmore> so i figured id do it about midnight wednesday or thursday 15:07 < dgilmore> yeah we should 15:07 < dgilmore> lets schedule it for thursday 15:08 < mmcgrath> sounds good to me, mind sending out an outage notification? I'll make sure I'm around then as well, shouldn't take too long. 15:09 < f13> thursday works for me. 15:10 < mmcgrath> k, then we'll get that all setup.. 15:10 < mmcgrath> anyone have any concerns about that before moving on? 15:10 < jcollie> not from me 15:10 < dgilmore> ill send out the notice 15:11 < mmcgrath> thanks 15:11 < mmcgrath> alrighty, next ticket. 15:11 < mmcgrath> .ticket 365 15:11 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #365 (mailman setup (project/hosted)) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/365 15:11 < mmcgrath> jcollie: want to take the floor on that one? 15:11 < jcollie> sure 15:11 < jcollie> i think we're ready to go, except for documenting a SOP 15:12 < jcollie> which would be SOOO much easier if we were on mediawiki but that's another topic 15:12 < mmcgrath> heheheh 15:12 < mmcgrath> cool 15:13 < mmcgrath> jcollie: once the sop's done just close that ticket and you have a huge thankyou from us and a bunch of other fedorahosted users, that will be most helpful to finally deploy. 15:13 < jcollie> there are a couple of lists out there so it wouldn't hurt for people to subscribe and start sending some mail through 15:13 < mmcgrath> alrighty, next ticket 15:13 < mmcgrath> .ticket 270 15:13 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #270 (Fedora Wiki allows editing raw HTML) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/270 15:13 -!- viking-ice [n=johannbg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has joined #fedora-meeting 15:13 < mmcgrath> ricky: paulobanon: I'm not sure what the latest is on that to be honest. 15:13 -!- jnettlet__ [n=jnettlet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has joined #fedora-meeting 15:13 -!- viking-ice [n=johannbg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has quit Connection reset by peer 15:13 < mmcgrath> Maybe its something we should't put much work into until after the wiki migration? 15:14 < ricky> Sorry for letting that sit - hopefully, it won't be a problem anymore soon :) 15:14 < jcollie> how fast do we think we can move to mediawiki? 15:14 < ricky> We have a pretty nice-looking setup already, thanks to mizmo. 15:14 < mmcgrath> jcollie: well, I've got to go around to the teams and make sure everyone's ok. 15:14 < mmcgrath> here's the hangups that I still know about 15:14 < ricky> I assume that we want FAS integration from the get-to? 15:14 < ricky> **get-go 15:14 < mmcgrath> 1) docbook (this is a must) 15:14 < mmcgrath> 2) FAS integration 15:14 < mmcgrath> 3) Make sure the art attachments migrated properly. 15:15 -!- fcrippa [n=fcrippa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has joined #fedora-meeting 15:15 < mdomsch> howdy 15:15 < mmcgrath> mdomsch: howdy. 15:15 < mmcgrath> so those are the big hanups. 15:15 < mmcgrath> ricky: mind taking the Meeting keyword out of that? 15:16 < ricky> mmcgrath: Sure thing. 15:16 < mmcgrath> alrighty 15:16 < mmcgrath> next ticket then. 15:16 < mmcgrath> .ticket 395 15:16 < zodbot> mmcgrath: #395 (Audio Streaming of Fedora Board Conference Calls) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/395 15:16 < mmcgrath> I don't think there's been any new progress on that but thought I'd check. 15:16 < jcollie> not much has happened lately... 15:16 < mmcgrath> jcollie: anything? 15:16 < mmcgrath> no worries, we've got time to work on that one. 15:17 < jcollie> but we've got 1+ month to get that into shape 15:17 < ivazquez> Do we have Asterisk/Callweaver/w/e up yet? 15:17 < mmcgrath> Ok, so thats all the tickets. I wanted to switch over to something that some of us have been working pretty hard at this week. 15:17 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Buildsystem. 15:17 < f13> que the dramatic lights 15:18 < mmcgrath> ivazquez: yeah, Asterisk is up but not fully deployed (no fas integration, no mailboxes, etc) but we have had meetings on it. 15:18 < jcollie> ivazquez: yes -- asterisk1 is up and running but it's still in a beta state 15:18 < mmcgrath> ok. so the buildsystem 15:18 < mmcgrath> for those of you that haven't seen the nagios alerts we've had 8 outages of the buildsystem since monday. 15:18 < dgilmore> :( 15:18 < mmcgrath> coming at all hours of the day or night. 15:18 < mmcgrath> Its not been fun. 15:18 < mmcgrath> so whats been done? 15:18 < jcollie> yeah that blows major chunks 15:19 < mmcgrath> well, we've spent some time getting the database in better shape. 15:19 < mmcgrath> we've made the website not hit the rpmfiles table which made a huge difference in general load on the db, but didn't help the spikes. 15:19 < mmcgrath> we added a robots.txt file, banned the soc search engine from crawling it. 15:20 < jcollie> do we want to ban all search engines? 15:20 < f13> and we threw 2K tasks at it 15:20 -!- ChitleshGoorah [n=chitlesh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has joined #fedora-meeting 15:20 < dgilmore> we should add those indexes to the task table 15:20 < mmcgrath> jcollie: until I can sleep through the night we do. 15:20 -!- knurd is now known as knurd_afk 15:20 < mmcgrath> <nod> 15:20 < mmcgrath> there's an index we got rid of and an index we're looking to add. 15:20 < mmcgrath> .taskload 15:20 < zodbot> mmcgrath: Tasks running - Open: 38 Total: 253 15:20 < abadger1999> (two indexes to add) 15:20 < f13> it's been moving very fast today 15:20 < f13> as far as chewing through open tasks 15:21 < mmcgrath> dgilmore's also working on moving the hub away from the website. 15:21 < mmcgrath> /koji/ is the website and /kojihub is the xmlrpc interface. 15:21 < f13> new repo tasks are faster than ever. 15:21 < f13> close to 10 minutes now 15:21 < f13> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=457867 15:22 < dgilmore> f13: still to long i think but its better 15:22 < mmcgrath> interestingly we've seen many times where the hub is nice, peppy and responsive and the website isn't, but since they're both on the same box right now, there's no way to stop or restart one without the other. 15:22 < f13> dgilmore: it's only 4~ minutes for the query before it hands it off to the builder to createrepo 15:23 < f13> dgilmore: the fact that we could get a 13 minute newRepo task done, while the builders have 300~ queued tasks is pretty amazing in my book 15:23 < mmcgrath> I think there's still a lot of work todo but with the exception of some timeouts this morning (very short lived) from nagios to check swap, I've not seen any actual outages yet. 15:23 < f13> yeah, today has been quite nice 15:23 < f13> I think splitting the hub from teh website is a good step 15:23 < mmcgrath> f13: how long did you say it takes to do the whole signing process? 15:23 < f13> and I'd like to take that further by having the repos stuff done by something else too 15:24 < mmcgrath> and is that something that blocks on disk IO or koji io or both? 15:24 < f13> mmcgrath: signing of packages depends on how many packages, but can often take a couple hours 15:24 < f13> mmcgrath: both. 15:24 < dgilmore> f13: im seeing about 17 minutes on sparc http://sparc.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=50738 15:24 < f13> signing does in this order: 15:24 < f13> query koji for existing cached or written out signatures for a set of biulds. 15:24 < f13> copy unsigned rpms to a work directory 15:24 < f13> rpm sign the rpms 15:24 < f13> import the signed headers into koji 15:25 < f13> ask koji to write out copies of the packages with the signed headers to the koji directories. 15:25 < dgilmore> f13: can you approve my announcement please :) 15:25 < skvidal> f13: I looked at this step in koji 15:25 < skvidal> [15:20] <f13> rpm sign the rpms 15:25 < f13> the query and the import take a long time, but then again so does the copying/signing if there ar ea lot of builds. 15:25 < skvidal> does it just call rpm --resign with xargs? 15:25 < f13> skvidal: 'in koji' ? 15:25 < f13> the signing doesn't happen in koji 15:25 < skvidal> well, I looked to see where it occurred 15:25 < mmcgrath> f13: Also I put in a bug to koji to hash the tasks directory, hopefully that will help us some. 15:25 < skvidal> and it doesn't seem to be called anywhere 15:25 < skvidal> ok 15:26 < skvidal> that's what I thought was going on 15:26 < skvidal> so i'm not losing my mind 15:26 < f13> skvidal: signed_unsigned is a terrible terrible script in the releng git repo 15:26 < skvidal> okay, I kinda got that feeling 15:26 < skvidal> thanks 15:26 < f13> it's slated to be replaced by sigul, although some parts of it will survive as a client of siguls to query koji for what neesd to be signed. 15:27 < f13> sign_unsigned came from inside RH 15:27 * skvidal is shocked to hear that 15:27 < mmcgrath> heh 15:28 < mmcgrath> alrighty so thats really whats been going on there. 15:28 < mmcgrath> its been sucking up a lot of our time this week but hopefully some of our problems can be bandaided until the permanent fixes can be put in. Koji's been deployed for almost a year now, there's still a long way to do. 15:28 < mmcgrath> koji is a journey, not a destination :) 15:29 -!- kital [n=Joerg_Si@fedora/kital] has joined #fedora-meeting 15:29 < mmcgrath> alrighty, so thats really all I have that I really wanted to talk about this meeting so lets open the floor. 15:29 < ricky> Wow, only one year. 15:29 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Open Floor 15:29 < smooge> just as long as cooker isnt the destination 15:29 -!- jnettlet_ [n=jnettlet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has quit Connection timed out 15:29 < mmcgrath> Anyone have anything they'd like to discuss? 15:30 < jcollie> i've been working on a tg based openid server for a day or so 15:30 < ricky> jcollie: Oooh, that'd be really handy in FAS! 15:30 < mmcgrath> jcollie: how's that going? It'll be nice to have some more openid expertise around here. 15:30 < jcollie> so it should be pretty easy to use your fedora id to log into stuff 15:30 < ricky> The provider that I have there is hideous (and probably only a partial/incorrect implementation of the spec) 15:30 < jcollie> i've had a couple of successful logins with it but somethings broken right now 15:31 < jcollie> i'm using the python-openid libs so we should be good as far as standards go 15:31 < daMaestro> +1 on openid 15:31 -!- spoleeba [n=one@fedora/Jef] has quit "Leaving" 15:31 < daMaestro> i'd love for FAS users to be able to login to the unity stuff 15:31 < lmacken> awesome. 15:32 < lmacken> jcollie: did you get the nested arg stuff working ? 15:32 < ricky> I'm curious as to how you're testing it. 15:32 < jcollie> lmacken: yes, thanks for the help 15:32 < GeroldKa> ping kanarip 15:32 < lmacken> great. no problem 15:32 < kanarip> GeroldKa, pong 15:32 < abadger1999> jcollie: What are your plans for that? Separate server? Integrate into FAS2 if we're interested (We are!) 15:32 < ricky> I think I used http://openidenabled.com/resources/openid-test/diagnose-server, but it might not be the most up-to-date/complete. 15:33 < daMaestro> i do have a question about my upcoming attempt to migrate everything from moinmoin to zwiki; am i just wasting me time? would it at least be interested to see how zope handles our current data set? 15:33 < daMaestro> s/interested/interesting/ 15:33 < jcollie> abadger1999: it used the tg identity stuff so we should be able to plug in a fas identity provider 15:33 < jcollie> er uses 15:33 < ricky> jcollie: Ohh, so it's a client, not a provider? 15:33 < jcollie> no it's a provider 15:33 < ricky> Or it could be both.. hmm. 15:34 < jcollie> we would need to write a separate consumer 15:35 < jcollie> code is here: http://jcollie.fedorapeople.org/samadhi.git/ 15:35 < jcollie> i'll probably request hosted space soon 15:35 < ricky> abadger1999: Do you know if we can have multiple auth providers in a TG project? 15:35 < lmacken> jcollie: great name :) 15:35 < jcollie> lmacken: thought you'd like it 15:36 < abadger1999> ricky: I think the web app only knows about a single provider. 15:36 < jcollie> dl the code and look at the logo i ginned up quick 15:36 < abadger1999> That provider could get information from multiple sources, though. 15:36 < ricky> Ah, great. 15:36 < jcollie> eventually i'll need some help prettifying the html... i'm no good a css and all that 15:37 -!- fabian_a [n=fabian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has joined #fedora-meeting 15:37 < mmcgrath> that will be great to finally get installed. 15:37 < ricky> jcollie: Anyway, when you get a chance, we'd love you to take a look at OpenID in FAS :) 15:37 < mmcgrath> Alrighty, anyone else have anything they'd like to discuss? 15:38 < ricky> I'd be glad to nuke whatever hideousness I put there before. 15:38 < daMaestro> mmcgrath, is my attempts with zwiki futile? 15:39 < mmcgrath> daMaestro: probably 15:39 < daMaestro> ok 15:39 < mmcgrath> unless you want the experience of doing it :) 15:40 < mmcgrath> alrighty, anyone have anything else? If not I'll close the meeting. 15:40 < dgilmore> nothing else? 15:40 < dgilmore> :) 15:41 < mmcgrath> Alrighty! 15:41 -!- mmcgrath changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Infrastructure -- Meeting closed 15:41 < mmcgrath> thanks for coming everyone!
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