On Sun, 2006-11-19 at 18:28 -0500, Dan Williams wrote: > On Sat, 2006-11-18 at 13:39 +0100, Jeroen Janssen wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm not sure if this is the correct Fedora mailinglist, but has anyone > > had a look at the OpenSuSe Build Service pages ( > > http://en.opensuse.org/Build_Service )? > > > > There are two presentations (from FOSDEM) about it and it seems they > > have also done some experimenting with building non SuSe distributions > > with this build system (like Fedora Core 4). > > > > Is this something that also could benefit the Fedora Project? > > Having already written most of Plague by the time OSBS came out, I read > over pretty much everything about it when it was announced last year. > > The purpose of the two do seem to overlap; however OSBS appears to have > a much larger scope. It appears to try to be the one-stop shop for > building _everything_ for any distribution with any build system or > source-control system; which is fine. The pitch in those slides was > basically "build your release packages on our buildsystem." > > I don't think we want such a wide scope and fuzzy focus. I think Fedora > is better served by a specific, targetted system that builds _Fedora_ > packages. That's a fairly parochial attitude, but one which I think is > in the best interest of Fedora. Given that everyone working on and > admining the Fedora Extras buildsystem is a volunteer, we don't need to > be spreading our resources out even further supporting something like > the OSBS. We should be concentrating on building excellent packages for > Fedora, and arguably nothing else; we cannot be everything to everybody > or we are doomed to fail. > > The building of packages is such an important and code piece of a > distribution that it cannot _not_ be under the control of the project, > and it cannot _not_ be _accountable_ to the project. As more of the > Core responsibility gets spun out to the wider Fedora project, this only > becomes more critical. We need to be able to admin the systems, we need > to be able fix problems when they arise, we need to be able to > demonstrate accountability and security of the buildsystem. Without > that, there is no trust in the integrity of the distribution. This doesn't mean that code could be shared, of course, given compatible licensing. dan > Cheers, > Dan > > > Best regards, > > > > Jeroen Janssen > > > > -- > > Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list > > Fedora-buildsys-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list > > -- > Fedora-buildsys-list mailing list > Fedora-buildsys-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-buildsys-list
