Hi Mikko, How does this compare to gnome-terminal? And have you tried to change the Settings -> Encodings to 'UTF-8' in konsole and see if it works? Is your KDE rpms grabbed somewhere else? [llch@dhcp-109 ~]$ konsole -v Qt: 3.3.4 KDE: 3.4.2-0.fc4.1 Red Hat Konsole: 1.5.2 Cheers, Leon On Tuesday 10 January 2006 16:12, Mikko Harjula wrote: > I'm running KDE on Fedora Core 4, kernel 2.6.14-0.10.rrt.rhfc4.ccrma > (i.e. Planet CCRMA patched FC4 kernel, but the same problem occurs > with the FC4 kernel too): > > $ konsole -v > Qt: 3.3.4 > KDE: 3.4.2 Level "b" > Konsole: 1.5.2 > > My problem is that I cannot input national characters from keyboard in KDE > Konsole. This used to work fine with my old RedHat 9 using iso-8859-1. I > have the adiaeresis etc. keys on my keyboard. I have googled around and > others having problems like this are trying to type chinese or other much > more complicated, so this must be something that should work right out of > the box! > > In virtual console (text mode you get with alt-FN, N=1-6 outside ox X) I > can type and see utf-8 characters. If XXX is a string with national > characters I can say: > > $ cat >XXX > XXX > ^D > $ cat XXX > XXX > $ > > Also less works if I set LESSCHARSET to utf-8. However even in > virtual console 'ls' shows utf-8 national characters in filenames as > two question marks. > > In X (KDE) the default xterm (konsole) is worse. I cannot type > national characters, not even as dead key sequences. National > character keys and 'dead' keys print nothing and also swallow the > following characters. The display shows only some small dots, smaller > and positioned a bit lower than a period. The ls command prints the > "??" for each national char. The 'cat XXX' shows the contents of the > file OK - of course I have to use wildcards to match the filename. > Less works too. So it seems konsole can show utf-8 but the input > method is wrong. > > In GNU Emacs 21.4.1 under X and in konsole (option -nw) entering > national characters produces nothing, dired shows national chars in > filenames correctly and displays file content correctly. > > XEmacs 21.4 (patch 17) under X seems to work correctly with national > characters, but with -nw option input does not work anymore. > > Xterm is a little better than Konsole because there I can type these > letters and they show up correctly, but every time I type one letter > the next letter is not displyed before I type something else. And > this behaviour sticks even through returns, so it seems to be deep > inside some input processing as if these would be like dead keys. By > the way the dead-key mechanism (pressing the diaeresis followed by a > produces adiaeresis) does not work either. > > Currently I have: > > $ env|egrep '^(LANG|LC_)' > LC_COLLATE=posix > LANG=fi_FI.UTF-8 > > and locale is: > > $ locale > locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: Tiedostoa tai hakemistoa ei > ole LANG=fi_FI.UTF-8 > LC_CTYPE="fi_FI.UTF-8" > LC_NUMERIC="fi_FI.UTF-8" > LC_TIME="fi_FI.UTF-8" > LC_COLLATE=posix > LC_MONETARY="fi_FI.UTF-8" > LC_MESSAGES="fi_FI.UTF-8" > LC_PAPER="fi_FI.UTF-8" > LC_NAME="fi_FI.UTF-8" > LC_ADDRESS="fi_FI.UTF-8" > LC_TELEPHONE="fi_FI.UTF-8" > LC_MEASUREMENT="fi_FI.UTF-8" > LC_IDENTIFICATION="fi_FI.UTF-8" > LC_ALL= > > The message "Tiedostoa tai hakemistoa ei ole" is "no such file" in Finnish. > > My /etc/sysconfig/i18n contains: > > LANG="fi_FI.UTF-8" > SYSFONT="latarcyrheb-sun16" > SUPPORTED="fi_FI.UTF-8:fi_FI:fi" > > My /etc/X11/xorg.conf has: > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "kbd" > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > Option "XkbLayout" "fi" > EndSection > > I don't have ~/.i18n or ~/.Xmodmap and I don't know if I should have one. > > When I start xev and press and releas 'ä' I get: > > KeyPress event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x2600001, > root 0x5f, subw 0x0, time 36690043, (434,546), root:(438,567), > state 0x10, keycode 48 (keysym 0xe4, adiaeresis), same_screen YES, > XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (e4) "� > XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (e4) "� > XFilterEvent returns: False > > KeyRelease event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x2600001, > root 0x5f, subw 0x0, time 36690142, (434,546), root:(438,567), > state 0x10, keycode 48 (keysym 0xe4, adiaeresis), same_screen YES, > XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (e4) "� > > The adiaeresis seems to be correct but XLookupString gives something funny. > > I have spent several days on this without any luck (including several > reinstalls) and would appreciate any help. Also leads to in-depth > documentation thoroughly explaining the mechanisms involved when keycodes > go through kernel, X, KDE, konsole, bash and whatever would be mostly > welcome.