Stupid gmail doesn't reply to all recipients by default, so see below. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Vasile Gaburici <vgaburici@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [Fwd: the ivory tower and the bazaar] They say a picture is worth a thousand words. [http://www.cs.umd.edu/~gaburici/linux-fonts.png] On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Nicolas Mailhot <nicolas.mailhot@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > -------- Message transféré -------- > De: Gustavo Ferreira > À: fedora-fonts-list-request > Sujet: the ivory tower and the bazaar > Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:38:59 -0300 > > On Jul 20, 2008, at 2:50 PM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > >> If the free/open font scene was striving Red Hat needn't have >> shelled a >> lot of money to a closed foundry like Ascender. Or the GNOME >> Foundation >> needn't have done the same with Bitstream for Vera. Experience >> shows it >> is very possible to extend a font with little coverage to more than >> decent one but it requires making a lot of noise around unfinished >> font >> cores with correct licensing to get someone interested. And you don't >> get there via traditionnal ivory tower isolated font designer >> workflow. > > i have yet to see one good, original, well-made typeface developed in > the bazaar way. can you name one? > > also, please don't be ungrateful to the "isolated ivory-tower > designer workflow", since it has produced the best foss-fonts out there. > > i challenge the "free & open font crowd" to promote free/open fonts > on the basis of their typographic quality, without appealing to below- > the-belt demonization of "proprietary designers" and "proprietary > tools". > >> Teams was released in 2000 by TopTeam. It took 8 years before someone >> picked it up and started updating it (Edrip). Have Debian (and other >> distributions, sadly Fedora not included) wasted their time by >> publishing Teams for 8 years in its poor state? If they hadn't I >> strongly suspect Edrip would not have happened. >> >> We're seeding our future. Those things take time, a lot of time. >> And the >> future will happen faster if people stop putting their heads in the >> sand, wasting time on proprietary fonts or font tools, and get to >> work. > >> During this year's LGM a concerted effort created a new nicely >> licensed >> font from an old fossilizing one in a few days. Just a few years ago >> this would have been complete science fiction. > > do you mean NotCourier Sans? i don't dislike the result, but let's be > honest about it -- chopping off serifs from an existing font is not > really type-design... > > cheers, > - gustavo. > > > -- > Nicolas Mailhot > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-fonts-list mailing list > Fedora-fonts-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list > > _______________________________________________ Fedora-fonts-list mailing list Fedora-fonts-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-fonts-list
