On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 9:10 PM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: > More to come in the next mail (after dinner :) ) Hello there again, The review continues: Page 7: >> LiveDVD Tuning – experience with kickstart I don't know what you mean by that . Normally, if you look at our kickstart file [1]: Together with Jereon, we have dropped all OS related issues for creating FEL livedvd, by just listing: - kde-livecd ks (which requires the livecd.base) - FEL packages - FEL specific post settings >From now on, we don't have any thing to do with the FEL ks, aside adding extra packages. All the hardcore work is done by Fedora Release Engineers + Red Hat engineers. Sometimes there are minor things to correct, but that won't take one day. But testing requires a lot of time. >> Co-operation with Desktop teams like Gnome, KDE etc. for Menu category discussions Currently there is NO co-operation with KDE and Gnome! There were some discussion between Debian devs, freedesktop devs, electronics-menu upstream and I. But it ended where it started. I guess you misunderstood my future proposals to FESCo. One of the proposals will consist on setting a new _Fedora_ packaging guidelines on packages that land their %{name}.desktop in the science&maths KDE/GNOME menus. The intention is to avoid multiple desktop menu entries by Scientific packages such as Octave and Qtoctave. The packaging guidelines that I will propose (together with Fedora KDE maintainer KevinKolfer) will also ensure that scientific applications such as Scilab which don't include a desktop file among their sources, have a proper Category entry in their fedora SRPM package. The reason that there is no cooperation with KDE and Gnome on this matter is simply because it doesn't concern them !. It concerns the freedesktop menu entries. Their devs have acknowledged the actual confusion with "science" menu category with "education" category. Once the packaging guidelines which I'll write in the upcoming weeks will be adopted by FESCo, it will be easier to get Debian involved as well to push these to Freedesktop devs. Thus the desktop ecosystem will benefit from it. Since, no one has stepped up to take such responsabilities and based on my limited time, I guess it is the only way to get the job done. >> Increase the availability of quick start tutorials and examples as a package itself Currently there are only one/two mailing list post about this. NO ONE has taken the initiative to do such thing. Unless there is a formal statement from someone, you can't add/talk about it. All FEL packages include their upstream documents and examples in their rpms or sub packages, such as -doc. Currently neither you(aanjhan), Thibault and I have agreed on such a work. --- ... talk about scilab, we are striving currently to get all its required BuildRequires: approved before F11. >> Page 9, A short note: I don't recall what her name is, but she took this photo during one of our measurements and later the group did post processing of the datas on LabPlot and octave+homemade quaternions models. this applies to anyone: If you have any doubt about anything, anything, even the stupidiest thing about FEL, feel free to talk about it to be _before_ the presentation. And be sure when you talk about something, to be able to answer questions about it. It is not a shame for not being able to answer a question during the presentation. It is normal and even my case. Tell them that honestly you don't know, but the mailing list is here for that. I always say "Humans aren't met to know everything." Kind regards, Chitlesh [1]: http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL/10/livedvd.html _______________________________________________ Fedora-electronic-lab-list mailing list Fedora-electronic-lab-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-electronic-lab-list