Re: Thoughts on swapping to rfc2307bis.ldif by default

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> On 3 Mar 2020, at 04:32, thierry bordaz <tbordaz@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On 3/2/20 7:24 AM, William Brown wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> As you may know, I'm currently working on a migration utility to help move from other ldap servers to 389-ds. Something that I have noticed in this process is that other servers default to rfc2307bis.ldif [0] by default. As part of the migration I would like to handle this situation a bit better. It's likely not viable for me to simply plaster rfc2307bis into 99user.ldif as part of the migration process, so I want to approach this better.
>> 
>> rfc2307 and rfc2307bis are incompatible schemas that redefine the same OIDs with new/different meanings. Some key examples:
>> 
>> * posixGroup in rfc2307 only requires gidNumber, rfc2307bis requires cn and gidNumber.
> Is not it the opposite ?

I was reading the schema as I was reading this.

>> * ipServiceProtocol, ipHostNumber, ipNetworkNumber and nisMapName change from "sup name" to "syntax 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.15". sup name is also syntax 1.3.6.1.4.1.1466.115.121.1.15 so this channge is minimal.
>> * posixGroup and posixAccount change from structural to auxillary in rfc2307bis (allowing them to be combined with person or nsAccount).
> Right but for 389-ds the structural requirement is not enforced, so it should not be a problem

You know, that's probably actually the best thing I've heard all day. It makes this problem much easier. 

>> 
>> Objectively, rfc2307bis is the better schema - but as with all proposals like this, there is always a risk of breaking customers or compatibility.
> I agree on both :)
>> 
>> I'm wondering what would be a reasonable course of action for us to move to rfc2307bis by default. My current thoughts:
>> 
>> * have rfc2307bis vs rfc2307 as an option to dssetup so we use the correct schema in the setup.
>> * default the setup option to rfc2307bis
>> * Tests for handling both setup options
>> * Upgrades of the server should not affect the rfc2307 vs rfc2307bis status
>> * A dsctl tool to allow changing between the rfc2307/rfc2307bis.
>> 
>> Thoughts? Concern? Ideas? Comments?
> It would be interesting to have a complete list of the differences. at the moment with the listed differences I think 2307bis would support 2307 entries. In addition, 2307bis looks to be a superset of 2307 so that it would be replicated in a mmr topology.

Right. I'll get a list of all the differences, and knowing that structural isn't enforced does make things easier - a lot easier. It may be less disruptive to swap to 2307bis by default if that's the case. 

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> Because of some bug,  99user.ldif will contains all overridden definitions not the only new/changed one.
> 
> The idea of a dsctl tool looks good. It could be to create a task that check all entries conform a schema. If all entries conform 2307bis we could replace the default 2307 schema file with the 2307bis.

Yeah, a task could help here too. 

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>> [0] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-howard-rfc2307bis-02
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>> —
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> William Brown
>> 
>> Senior Software Engineer, 389 Directory Server
>> SUSE Labs
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William Brown

Senior Software Engineer, 389 Directory Server
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