I've been meaning to do this for ages, but I've finally updated /etc/macros.perl with an initial set macros to assist in the near-automatic generation of -tests subpackages. They can also be found at: http://gist.github.com/284409 (If we start needing to really fork/edit, I'll switch it to a real repo rather than a gist.) The point here is to be able to quickly and easily validate an installed system, or to do smoke testing against upgrades. Several of the "modern perl" suites (e.g. Moose, Catalyst, DBIx::Class, etc) are very interdependent, and an upgrade of one package can break another. (e.g. Class::MOP and Moose, Moose and Catalyst::Runtime, etc, etc.) Having these tests easily installable and executable seems to be a key first step in any sort of validation framework like this. These should be considered experimental at this point; they should always be conditionalized like %perl_default_filter, and their behavior may change based on feedback / actual usage. That being said, I've been using these locally for the last month or so with no show-stopper issues I'm aware of. A couple notes: * The %perl_subpackage_tests or %perl_default_subpackage_tests must be explicitly invoked. They play no role in a build unless invoked. * They should be invoked in the same way the filtering macros are, that is conditionalized, and before the first %description. * No tests subpackage dependency RPM metadata is currently generated, and autoreq/prov for the subpackage is disabled. * Executable bit is set on *.t, and * Shbang lines are normalized using ExtUtils::MM_Unix->fixin(). * Tests are installed under %{_libexecdir}/perl5-tests/<Dist-Name> * Noisy. The macros, particularly fix_shbang_line, generate a great deal of output. I intend on creating a small helper package to assist in testing/validating installed configurations, but wanted to get these out there for feedback before doing so. These macros are not perfect, but are at a point where we can have constructive feedback on them. In particular, I'm hoping to hear back on the choice of the tests directory and RPM dependency metadata. The perl-Moose, -Class-MOP, and the -SQL-Translator packages have been (...are being) rebuilt to demo this. Note that the tests are not 100% good-to-go with this; some expect write permissions where they execute, some expect other files to be around, etc, but this is to be expected and can be handled with upstream... Right now my main thrust is to get a solid framework in place. :) -Chris -- Chris Weyl Ex astris, scientia -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel